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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org,  "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/8] KVM: x86: nSVM: Redirect IA32_PAT accesses to either hPAT or gPAT
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 14:19:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aY-jViitsLQm9B83@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eR4ayj_gwsDQVH8pQvzqgEYVB6ExWp3aFgJXRWikLEikw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 13, 2026, Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 7:20 AM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> > > > +static inline void svm_set_hpat(struct vcpu_svm *svm, u64 data)
> > > > +{
> > > > +   svm->vcpu.arch.pat = data;
> > > > +   if (npt_enabled) {
> >
> > Peeking at the future patches, if we make this:
> >
> >         if (!npt_enabled)
> >                 return;
> >
> > then we can end up with this:
> >
> >         if (npt_enabled)
> >                 return;
> >
> >         vmcb_set_gpat(svm->vmcb01.ptr, data);
> >         if (is_guest_mode(&svm->vcpu) && !nested_npt_enabled(svm))
> >                 vmcb_set_gpat(svm->nested.vmcb02.ptr, data);
> >
> >         if (svm->nested.legacy_gpat_semantics)
> >                 svm_set_l2_pat(svm, data);
> >
> > Because legacy_gpat_semantics can only be true if npt_enabled is true.  Without
> > that guard, KVM _looks_ buggy because it's setting gpat in the VMCB even when
> > it shouldn't exist.
> >
> > Actually, calling svm_set_l2_pat() when !is_guest_mode() is wrong too, no?  E.g.
> > shouldn't we end up with this?
> 
> Sigh. legacy_gpat_semantics is supposed to be set only when
> is_guest_mode() and nested_npt_enabled(). I forgot about back-to-back
> invocations of KVM_SET_NESTED_STATE. Are there other ways of leaving
> guest mode or disabling nested NPT before the next KVM_RUN?

KVM_SET_VCPU_EVENTS will do it if userspace forces a change in SMM state:

		if (!!(vcpu->arch.hflags & HF_SMM_MASK) != events->smi.smm) {
			kvm_leave_nested(vcpu);
			kvm_smm_changed(vcpu, events->smi.smm);
		}

I honestly wasn't even thinking of anything in particular, it just looked weird.

> > > > +           vmcb_set_gpat(svm->vmcb01.ptr, data);
> > > > +           if (is_guest_mode(&svm->vcpu) && !nested_npt_enabled(svm))
> > > > +                   vmcb_set_gpat(svm->nested.vmcb02.ptr, data);
> > > > +   }
> > > > +}
> > >
> > > Is it me, or is it a bit confusing that svm_set_gpat() sets L2's gPAT
> > > not L1's, and svm_set_hpat() calls vmcb_set_gpat()?
> >
> > It's not just you.  I don't find it confusing per se, more that it's really
> > subtle.
> >
> > > "gpat" means different things in the context of the VMCB or otherwise,
> > > which kinda makes sense but is also not super clear. Maybe
> > > svm_set_l1_gpat() and svm_set_l2_gpat() is more clear?
> >
> > I think just svm_set_l1_pat() and svm_set_l2_pat(), because gpat straight up
> > doesn't exist when NPT is disabled/unsupported.
> 
> My intention was that "gpat" and "hpat" were from the perspective of the vCPU.
> 
> I dislike svm_set_l1_pat() and svm_set_l2_pat(). As you point out
> above, there is no independent L2 PAT when nested NPT is disabled. I
> think that's less obvious than the fact that there is no gPAT from the
> vCPU's perspective. My preference is to follow the APM terminology
> when possible. Making up our own terms just leads to confusion.

How about svm_set_pat() and svm_get_gpat()?  Because hPAT doesn't exist when NPT
is unsupported/disabled, but KVM still needs to set the vCPU's emulated PAT value.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-13 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-12 15:58 [PATCH v4 0/8] KVM: x86: nSVM: Improve PAT virtualization Jim Mattson
2026-02-12 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] KVM: x86: nSVM: Clear VMCB_NPT clean bit when updating hPAT from guest mode Jim Mattson
2026-02-13  0:17   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-13 15:26     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-13 15:32       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-13 15:46         ` Jim Mattson
2026-02-12 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] KVM: x86: nSVM: Cache and validate vmcb12 g_pat Jim Mattson
2026-02-13  0:22   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-20 22:26     ` Jim Mattson
2026-02-20 23:25       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-12 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] KVM: x86: nSVM: Set vmcb02.g_pat correctly for nested NPT Jim Mattson
2026-02-13  0:27   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-12 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] KVM: x86: nSVM: Redirect IA32_PAT accesses to either hPAT or gPAT Jim Mattson
2026-02-13  0:30   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-13 15:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-13 15:42       ` Jim Mattson
2026-02-13 22:19         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-02-13 23:31           ` Jim Mattson
2026-02-17 23:27             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-17 23:40               ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-17 23:44                 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-26 21:18               ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-26 21:26                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-26 21:56                   ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-26 21:59                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-13 15:43       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-13 15:44         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-12 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] KVM: x86: nSVM: Save gPAT to vmcb12.g_pat on VMEXIT Jim Mattson
2026-02-13  0:33   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-12 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] KVM: x86: nSVM: Save/restore gPAT with KVM_{GET,SET}_NESTED_STATE Jim Mattson
2026-02-13  0:36   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-12 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] KVM: x86: nSVM: Handle restore of legacy nested state Jim Mattson
2026-02-13  0:38   ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-12 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] KVM: selftests: nSVM: Add svm_nested_pat test Jim Mattson

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