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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv1 1/3] PCI: Allow ATS to be always on for CXL.cache capable devices
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2026 09:45:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYI0LUdXqrjmRcMo@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260203143348.GA3931454@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Feb 03, 2026 at 10:33:48AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 02, 2026 at 09:13:50PM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 09:05:20AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2026 at 04:49:07PM -0800, dan.j.williams@intel.com wrote:
> > > > > Yes, ARM took the position that ATS should be left disabled for
> > > > > IDENTITY both because of SMMU constraints and also because it made
> > > > > some sense that you wouldn't want ATS overhead just to get a 1:1
> > > > > translation.
> > > > 
> > > > Does this mean that ARM already today does not enable ATS until driver
> > > > attach, or is incremental work needed for that capability?
> > > 
> > > All of the iommu drivers setup an iommu translation and enable ATS
> > > before any driver is bound.
> > > 
> > > We would need to do more work in the core to leave the translation
> > > blocked when there is no driver. I don't think it is that difficult
> > 
> > Hmm, not sure if we could use group->domain=NULL as "blocked..
> 
> Definately not, we need to use a proper blocked domain.

Yea, I suspected so.

> > @@ -437,8 +437,6 @@ static int driver_sysfs_add(struct device *dev)
> >  {
> >  	int ret;
> >  
> > -	bus_notify(dev, BUS_NOTIFY_BIND_DRIVER);
> > -
> >  	ret = sysfs_create_link(&dev->driver->p->kobj, &dev->kobj,
> >  				kobject_name(&dev->kobj));
> >  	if (ret)
> > @@ -638,10 +636,12 @@ static int really_probe(struct device *dev, const struct device_driver *drv)
> >  	if (ret)
> >  		goto pinctrl_bind_failed;
> >  
> > +	bus_notify(dev, BUS_NOTIFY_BIND_DRIVER);
> > +
> >  	if (dev->bus->dma_configure) {
> >  		ret = dev->bus->dma_configure(dev);
> >  		if (ret)
> > -			goto pinctrl_bind_failed;
> > +			goto bus_notify_bind_failed;
> >  	}
> 
> We shouldn't need any of these? The dma_configure callback already
> gets into the iommu code to validate the domain and restrict VFIO,
> no further callbacks should be needed.
>
> When the iommu driver is probed to the device we can assume no driver
> is bound and immediately attach the blocked domain.

I was trying to use dev->driver that gets set before dma_configure()
and unset after dma_cleanup(). But looks like we could just keep the
track of group->owner_cnt in iommu_device_use/unuse_default_domain().

Btw, attaching to IOMMU_DOMAIN_BLOCKED/group->blocking_domain is not
allowed in general if require_direct=true. I assume this case can be
an exception since there's no point in allowing a device that has no
driver yet to access any reserved region?

Thanks
Nicolin

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-03 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-17  4:56 [PATCH RFCv1 0/3] Allow ATS to be always on for certain ATS-capable devices Nicolin Chen
2026-01-17  4:56 ` [PATCH RFCv1 1/3] PCI: Allow ATS to be always on for CXL.cache capable devices Nicolin Chen
2026-01-19 17:58   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-21  8:01   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-21 10:03     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-21 13:03       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-22  1:17         ` Baolu Lu
2026-01-22 13:15           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-22  5:44         ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-22 13:14           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-22 16:29             ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-22 16:58               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-22 19:46             ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-27  8:10               ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-27 15:04                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28  0:49                   ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-28 13:05                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-03  5:13                       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-02-03 14:33                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-03 17:45                           ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2026-02-03 17:55                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-03 18:50                               ` Nicolin Chen
2026-02-04 13:21                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-03 18:59                               ` Robin Murphy
2026-02-03 19:24                                 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-02-03 23:16                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-04 12:18                                   ` Robin Murphy
2026-02-04 13:20                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 22:56                               ` Nicolin Chen
2026-02-19 14:37                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 16:53                                   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-02-19 17:41                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-20  4:52                                       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-02-20 12:50                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-20 13:22                                           ` Robin Murphy
2026-02-20 13:51                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-20 14:45                                               ` Robin Murphy
2026-02-26 15:10                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-20 18:49                                           ` Nicolin Chen
2026-02-24 14:38                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28  0:57                   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-28 13:11                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29  3:28                       ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-22 10:24         ` Alejandro Lucero Palau
2026-01-17  4:56 ` [PATCH RFCv1 2/3] PCI: Allow ATS to be always on for non-CXL NVIDIA GPUs Nicolin Chen
2026-01-19 18:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-19 18:09     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-17  4:56 ` [PATCH RFCv1 3/3] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Allow ATS to be always on Nicolin Chen
2026-01-19 20:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 12:39   ` Will Deacon
2026-01-26 17:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 18:40       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-26 19:16         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 18:49       ` Robin Murphy
2026-01-26 19:09         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-27 13:10           ` Will Deacon
2026-01-27 13:26             ` Robin Murphy
2026-01-27 13:50               ` Will Deacon
2026-01-27 14:49                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 18:21     ` Nicolin Chen

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