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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	"Christian Marangi (Ansuel)" <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Mike Rapoport (IBM)" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Eric DeVolder <eric.devolder@oracle.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@somainline.org>,
	John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] ARM: decompressor: support AUTO_ZRELADDR and appended DTB
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 10:02:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYMZLWOlFOPTsnWx@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD++jLkfcVSeKf9eNzXpe2AUD-7Gaw47gxHwqZtLuomWed1u8Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 04, 2026 at 10:49:24AM +0100, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2026 at 10:24 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > > Another reason would be that appended DTB is in the same
> > > league as the GPIO sysfs despite we GPIO maintainers hate it:
> > > a feature users highly desire because it's easy and convenient
> > > and practical and quick and thus refuse to let us drop. Every time
> > > we try to deprecate it more we get a good beating.
> >
> > I don't think appended DTB is ABI. The GPIO sysfs definitely is.
> 
> The reason the GPIO sysfs is demanded is not so much because
> of ABI, like if applications are using it.
> 
> It's more about developers wanting to play with their systems
> interactively to figure things out or do makerspace projects
> using GPIO.
> 
> Likewise I think appended DTB is appealing to developers because...
> "it boots, ship it". ;)

Right, but what we have in the kernel works for those platforms that
it has been needed for. That's what it was for - a stop-gap for
transitioning 32-bit ARM to DT. It shouldn't be extended to new
platforms.

No one answered my question whether there was a regression or whether
this was for new platforms. Given that lack of engagement, I'm just
going to say a flat NO to this, since we don't seem to be able to
communicate effectively.

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      reply	other threads:[~2026-02-04 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-21 20:29 [PATCH v2 0/2] ARM: decompressor: support AUTO_ZRELADDR and appended DTB Christian Marangi
2024-01-21 20:29 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] ARM: decompressor: support memory start validation for " Christian Marangi
2024-06-13 16:42   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-01-21 20:29 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ARM: decompressor: add option to ignore MEM ATAGs Christian Marangi
2024-02-21 16:57 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] ARM: decompressor: support AUTO_ZRELADDR and appended DTB Christian Marangi
2024-02-22 12:07   ` Linus Walleij
2024-05-05 16:22     ` Christian Marangi
2024-06-13 11:24   ` Christian Marangi
2024-06-13 13:50     ` Linus Walleij
2024-06-13 15:59       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-06-13 13:42         ` Christian Marangi
2026-02-02 10:26           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-02 10:47             ` Christian Marangi (Ansuel)
2026-02-02 10:58             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-02-02 11:03               ` Christian Marangi (Ansuel)
2026-02-02 11:11                 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-02-04  0:36                   ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-04  1:27                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-02-04 10:53                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-04 11:54                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-02-04 12:48                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-02-04 12:58                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-04 13:29                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-02-04 13:52                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-04 12:52                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-02-04  9:24                     ` Marc Zyngier
2026-02-04  9:49                       ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-04 10:02                         ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]

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