From: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: david.laight.linux@gmail.com,
Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
Vincent Mailhol <mailhol.vincent@wanadoo.fr>,
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH next 12/14] bits: move the defitions of BIT() and BIT_ULL() back to linux/bits.h
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2026 23:23:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYgP00w2xzWfbx8l@yury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cy2gb2ja.ffs@tglx>
On Sat, Feb 07, 2026 at 11:40:41PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 21 2026 at 14:57, david laight linux wrote:
>
> TLDR: Not going to happen. Period.
>
> > Move BIT_ULL() and make code that include both headers use the definition
> > of BIT() from linux/bits.h
> > Add BIT_U128() for completness.
>
> 1) How is that related to $Subject?
>
> 2) It's clearly documented that patches should not do different things
> at once.
>
> 3) It's also documented that stuff is only added when there is a use
> case. I can't find one.
>
> > Note that nothing the the x86-64 build relies on the definition in
> > vdso/bits.h, linux/bits.h is always included.
>
> Wrong. The x86-64 build includes vdso/bits.h for the VDSO build.
>
> > @@ -2,7 +2,6 @@
> > #ifndef __LINUX_BITS_H
> > #define __LINUX_BITS_H
> >
> > -#include <vdso/bits.h>
> > #include <uapi/linux/bits.h>
> >
> > #define BIT_MASK(nr) (UL(1) << ((nr) % BITS_PER_LONG))
> > @@ -89,10 +88,16 @@ int BIT_INPUT_CHECK_FAIL(void) __compiletime_error("Bit number out of range");
> > ((unsigned int)BIT_INPUT_CHECK(+(nr), BITS_PER_TYPE(type)) + ((type)1 << (nr)))
> > #endif /* defined(__ASSEMBLY__) */
> >
> > +/* Prefer this definition of BIT() to the one in vdso/bits.h */
> > +#undef BIT
>
> That's a horrible sloppy hack.
>
> > +#define __VDSO_BITS_H
>
> And this even more so.
>
> > +#define BIT(nr) BIT_TYPE(unsigned long, nr)
> > +#define BIT_ULL(nr) BIT_TYPE(unsigned long long, nr)
>
> Aside of that you sloppily kept the comment above all of this intact,
> which does not make any sense at all after this change. It says:
>
> /*
> * Fixed-type variants of BIT(), with additional checks like GENMASK_TYPE(). The
> * following examples generate compiler warnings due to -Wshift-count-overflow:
> *
> * - BIT_U8(8)
> * - BIT_U32(-1)
> * - BIT_U32(40)
> */
>
> I have to admit that you are at least consistently sloppy.
>
> > #define BIT_U8(nr) BIT_TYPE(u8, nr)
> > #define BIT_U16(nr) BIT_TYPE(u16, nr)
> > #define BIT_U32(nr) BIT_TYPE(u32, nr)
> > #define BIT_U64(nr) BIT_TYPE(u64, nr)
> > +#define BIT_U128(nr) BIT_TYPE(u128, nr)
>
> What's wrong with the obvious solution of moving all this BIT_XX() muck
> into vdso/bit.h?
>
> Especially as you say in your changelog word salad:
I'm next to that. I'm having hard times struggling through this
wording style. As a non-native English speaker, I used to ground
myself when I feel like I can't understand things. But here it's
clearly not only me.
David, for the next iteration, please reword your commit messages and
comments with a more standard version of English.
Regarding this patch, I agree with everything Thomas Gleixner and
Thomas Weißschuh said. This is an NAK.
> > This lets BIT() pick up the extra compile time checks for W=[1c] builds
> > that detect errors like:
> > long foo(void) { int x = 64; return BIT(x); }
> > For which clang (silently) just generates a 'return' instruction.
>
> Letting the VDSO build have the same checks with a W=1 build would be
> too sensible, right?
>
> It's not rocket science to achieve that. See below.
>
> That's admittedly a hack too, but a more palatable hack and I'm just
> including it for illustration.
>
> Just for the record: I definitely spent less time hacking that up than I
> wasted reviewing and replying to your slop.
>
> The proper thing to do is to move all the stuff which is neither vdso
> nor kernel specific into a separate include/$BIKESHEDTHENAME/ directory
> and sort out that ever recurring problem of VDSO vs. kernel builds once
> and forever. That's not rocket science either.
I would say, "both vdso and kernel", and I would probably add uapi in
the bucket.
Thanks,
Yury
> That'd be too reasonable and tasteful, but not convoluted and sloppy
> enough, right?
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-08 4:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-21 14:57 [PATCH next 00/14] bits: De-bloat expansion of GENMASK() david.laight.linux
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 01/14] overflow: Reduce expansion of __type_max() david.laight.linux
2026-01-21 20:59 ` Kees Cook
2026-02-02 16:45 ` Yury Norov
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 02/14] kbuild: Add W=c for additional compile time checks david.laight.linux
2026-02-02 18:33 ` Yury Norov
2026-02-02 20:07 ` David Laight
2026-02-03 4:47 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-02-03 11:14 ` David Laight
2026-02-03 19:41 ` Yury Norov
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 03/14] media: videobuf2-core: Use static_assert() for sanity check david.laight.linux
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 04/14] media: atomisp: " david.laight.linux
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 05/14] ixgbevf: Use C test for PAGE_SIZE > IXGBE_MAX_DATA_PER_TXD david.laight.linux
2026-01-23 15:44 ` Simon Horman
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 06/14] asm-generic: include linux/bits.h not vdso/bits.h david.laight.linux
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 07/14] x86/tlb: " david.laight.linux
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 08/14] bits: simplify GENMASK_TYPE() david.laight.linux
2026-02-08 2:36 ` Yury Norov
2026-02-09 9:42 ` David Laight
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 09/14] bits: Change BIT_U8/16() and GENMASK_U8/16() to have unsigned values david.laight.linux
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 10/14] bits: Fix assmebler expansions of GENMASK_Uxx() and BIT_Uxx() david.laight.linux
2026-02-08 3:31 ` Yury Norov
2026-02-08 11:42 ` David Laight
2026-02-08 21:20 ` Yury Norov
2026-02-08 22:27 ` David Laight
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 11/14] bit: Strengthen compile-time tests in GENMASK() and BIT() david.laight.linux
2026-01-21 18:43 ` Vincent Mailhol
2026-01-21 19:14 ` David Laight
2026-01-22 1:11 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-22 10:25 ` David Laight
2026-01-22 20:10 ` David Laight
2026-01-22 4:41 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-22 10:33 ` David Laight
2026-01-22 14:26 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-22 14:55 ` David Laight
2026-01-23 1:25 ` Philip Li
2026-01-23 8:01 ` Vincent Mailhol
2026-01-23 8:11 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-23 8:20 ` Al Viro
2026-01-23 8:24 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-23 8:32 ` Vincent Mailhol
2026-01-23 8:46 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-23 1:24 ` Philip Li
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 12/14] bits: move the defitions of BIT() and BIT_ULL() back to linux/bits.h david.laight.linux
2026-01-21 15:17 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-01-21 19:24 ` David Laight
2026-01-22 7:39 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-01-22 0:50 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-22 1:23 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-22 10:30 ` David Laight
2026-02-07 22:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-02-08 4:23 ` Yury Norov [this message]
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 13/14] test_bits: Change all the tests to be compile-time tests david.laight.linux
2026-02-08 4:37 ` Yury Norov
2026-02-08 11:32 ` David Laight
2026-01-21 14:57 ` [PATCH next 14/14] test_bits: include some invalid input tests for GENMASK_INPUT_CHECK() david.laight.linux
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