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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	adrian.hunter@intel.com, ak@linux.intel.com,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, andres@anarazel.de,
	dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com, james.clark@linaro.org,
	jolsa@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux@treblig.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, thomas.falcon@intel.com,
	tmricht@linux.ibm.com, yang.lee@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 6/6] perf stat: Add no-affinity flag
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2026 17:18:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYqHTfCoW1bGmJF4@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fXOasXgKRSvrA1B+Yx42egfZfLO4h1OKrB4tLCCz_o8Cg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Feb 07, 2026 at 07:54:05AM -0800, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2026 at 4:51 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 06, 2026 at 02:25:09PM -0800, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > > Add flag that disables affinity behavior. Using sched_setaffinity to
> > > place a perf thread on a CPU can avoid certain interprocessor
> > > interrupts but may introduce a delay due to the scheduling,
> > > particularly on loaded machines. Add a command line option to disable
> > > the behavior. This behavior is less present in other tools like `perf
> > > record`, as it uses a ring buffer and doesn't make repeated system
> > > calls.
> >
> > This is confusing:
> >
> > ⬢ [acme@toolbx perf-tools-next]$ perf stat -h affinity
> >
> >  Usage: perf stat [<options>] [<command>]
> >
> >         --affinity        don't allow affinity optimizations aimed at reducing IPIs
> >
> > ⬢ [acme@toolbx perf-tools-next]$
> >
> > The way it is presented in the -h output it looks as if one has to use:
> >
> >         perf stat --affinity
> >
> > To disable affinity setting, when used that way it looks as if the user
> > is asking for affinity to be used.
> >
> > We have things like:
> >
> > ⬢ [acme@toolbx perf-tools-next]$ grep -A2 OPT_.*no- tools/perf/builtin-record.c
> >         OPT_BOOLEAN(0, "no-buffering", &record.opts.no_buffering,
> >                     "collect data without buffering"),
> >         OPT_BOOLEAN('R', "raw-samples", &record.opts.raw_samples,
> > --
> >         OPT_BOOLEAN_SET('i', "no-inherit", &record.opts.no_inherit,
> >                         &record.opts.no_inherit_set,
> >                         "child tasks do not inherit counters"),
> > --
> >         OPT_BOOLEAN(0, "no-bpf-event", &record.opts.no_bpf_event, "do not record bpf events"),
> >         OPT_BOOLEAN(0, "strict-freq", &record.opts.strict_freq,
> >                     "Fail if the specified frequency can't be used"),
> > --
> >         OPT_BOOLEAN('n', "no-samples", &record.opts.no_samples,
> >                     "don't sample"),
> >         OPT_BOOLEAN_SET('N', "no-buildid-cache", &record.no_buildid_cache,
> >                         &record.no_buildid_cache_set,
> >                         "do not update the buildid cache"),
> >         OPT_BOOLEAN_SET('B', "no-buildid", &record.no_buildid,
> >                         &record.no_buildid_set,
> >                         "do not collect buildids in perf.data"),
> > ⬢ [acme@toolbx perf-tools-next]$
> >
> > Probably this needs to be that way?
> 
> So it was that way in the v4 patch set but Namhyung asked for it to be
> the other way around:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/aRvcuMfbDRSBU87k@google.com/
> The comment on the option didn't get changed and that's a  mistake.
> Let me know what's preferred and I can send a patch.

Right, I still prefer positive option names so that "--no-" prefix can
be added.

Thanks,
Namhyung


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-10  1:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-03 22:51 [PATCH v7 0/6] perf stat affinity changes Ian Rogers
2026-02-03 22:51 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] Revert "perf tool_pmu: More accurately set the cpus for tool events" Ian Rogers
2026-02-03 22:51 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] perf stat-shadow: In prepare_metric fix guard on reading NULL perf_stat_evsel Ian Rogers
2026-02-03 22:51 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] perf evlist: Special map propagation for tool events that read on 1 CPU Ian Rogers
2026-02-03 22:51 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] perf evlist: Missing TPEBS close in evlist__close Ian Rogers
2026-02-03 22:51 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] perf evlist: Reduce affinity use and move into iterator, fix no affinity Ian Rogers
2026-02-03 22:51 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] perf stat: Add no-affinity flag Ian Rogers
2026-02-06 21:35 ` [PATCH v7 0/6] perf stat affinity changes Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-02-06 22:01   ` Ian Rogers
2026-02-06 22:13     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-02-06 22:25       ` [PATCH v8 " Ian Rogers
2026-02-06 22:25         ` [PATCH v8 1/6] Revert "perf tool_pmu: More accurately set the cpus for tool events" Ian Rogers
2026-02-09 23:10           ` Ian Rogers
2026-02-06 22:25         ` [PATCH v8 2/6] perf stat-shadow: In prepare_metric fix guard on reading NULL perf_stat_evsel Ian Rogers
2026-02-06 22:25         ` [PATCH v8 3/6] perf evlist: Special map propagation for tool events that read on 1 CPU Ian Rogers
2026-02-06 22:25         ` [PATCH v8 4/6] perf evlist: Missing TPEBS close in evlist__close Ian Rogers
2026-02-06 22:25         ` [PATCH v8 5/6] perf evlist: Reduce affinity use and move into iterator, fix no affinity Ian Rogers
2026-02-06 22:25         ` [PATCH v8 6/6] perf stat: Add no-affinity flag Ian Rogers
2026-02-07 12:51           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-02-07 15:54             ` Ian Rogers
2026-02-10  1:18               ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2026-02-10  6:03                 ` [PATCH v9 0/6] perf stat affinity changes Ian Rogers
2026-02-10  6:03                 ` Ian Rogers
2026-02-10  6:03                   ` [PATCH v9 1/6] Revert "perf tool_pmu: More accurately set the cpus for tool events" Ian Rogers
2026-02-10  6:03                   ` [PATCH v9 2/6] perf stat-shadow: In prepare_metric fix guard on reading NULL perf_stat_evsel Ian Rogers
2026-02-10  6:03                   ` [PATCH v9 3/6] perf evlist: Special map propagation for tool events that read on 1 CPU Ian Rogers
2026-02-10  6:03                   ` [PATCH v9 4/6] perf evlist: Missing TPEBS close in evlist__close Ian Rogers
2026-02-10  6:03                   ` [PATCH v9 5/6] perf evlist: Reduce affinity use and move into iterator, fix no affinity Ian Rogers
2026-02-10  6:03                   ` [PATCH v9 6/6] perf stat: Add no-affinity flag Ian Rogers

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