From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] KVM: nSVM: Sync next_rip to cached vmcb12 after VMRUN of L2
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 16:39:28 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYvPwH8JcRItaQRI@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mxn6y6og34ejncnsvdapcoep4ewcnwnheszhwkp2undkqcu5zv@bpmseexuug5z>
On Wed, Feb 11, 2026, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > > We can drop it and make it a local vaiable in nested_svm_vmrun(), and
> > > plumb it all the way down. But it could be too big for the stack.
> >
> > It's 48 bytes, there's no way that's too big.
>
> That's before my hardening series shoved everything in there. It's now
> 256 bytes, which is not huge, but makes me nervous. Especially that it
> may grow more in the future.
>
> > > Allocating it every time isn't nice either.
> >
> > > Do you mean to also make it opaque?
> >
> > I'd prefer to drop it.
>
> Me too, but I am nervous about putting it on the stack.
256 bytes should be tolerable. 500+ is where things tend to get dicey.
> > > > + u8 __vmcb12_ctrl[sizeof(struct vmcb_ctrl_area_cached)];
> > >
> > > We have a lot of accesses to svm->nested.ctl, so we'll need a lot of
> > > clutter to cast the field in all of these places.
> > >
> > > Maybe we add a read-only accessor that returns a pointer to a constant
> > > struct?
> >
> > That's what I said :-D
> >
> > * All reads are routed through accessors to make it all but impossible
> > * for KVM to clobber its snapshot of vmcb12.
> >
> > There might be a lot of helpers, but I bet it's less than nVMX has for vmcs12.
>
> Oh I meant instead of having a lot of helpers, have a single helper that
> returns it as a pointer to const struct vmcb_ctrl_area_cached? Then all
> current users just switch to the helper instead of directly using
> svm->nested.ctl.
>
> We can even name it sth more intuitive like svm_cached_vmcb12_control().
That makes it to easy to do something like:
u32 *int_ctl = svm_cached_vmcb12_control(xxx).
*int_ctl |= xxx;
Which is what I want to defend against.
> > > I think this will be annoying when new fields are added, like
> > > insn_bytes. Perhaps at some point we move to just serializing the entire
> > > combined vmcb02/vmcb12 control area and add a flag for that.
> >
> > If we do it now, can we avoid the flag?
>
> I don't think so. Fields like insn_bytes are not currently serialized at
> all. The moment we need them, we'll probably need to add a flag, at
> which point serializing everything under the flag would probably be the
> sane thing to do.
>
> That being said, I don't really know how a KVM that uses insn_bytes
> should handle restoring from an older KVM that doesn't serialize it :/
>
> Problem for the future, I guess :)
Oh, good point. In that case, I think it makes sense to add the flag asap, so
that _if_ it turns out that KVM needs to consume a field that isn't currently
saved/restored, we'll at least have a better story for KVM's that save/restore
everything.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-11 0:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-10 0:54 [PATCH 0/4] KVM: nSVM: Fix save/restore of next_rip & int_state Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-10 0:54 ` [PATCH 1/4] KVM: nSVM: Sync next_rip to cached vmcb12 after VMRUN of L2 Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-10 1:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-10 16:25 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-10 19:20 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-10 22:19 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-11 0:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-11 0:27 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-11 0:39 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-02-11 1:02 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-21 0:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-21 9:11 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-23 16:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-23 17:21 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-23 20:23 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-10 0:54 ` [PATCH 2/4] KVM: nSVM: Sync int_state " Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-10 0:54 ` [PATCH 3/4] KVM: selftests: Extend state_test to check vGIF Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-10 0:54 ` [PATCH 4/4] KVM: selftests: Extend state_test to check next_rip Yosry Ahmed
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