* [PATCH 0/2] pid_namespace: make init creation more flexible
@ 2026-02-20 16:42 Pavel Tikhomirov
2026-02-20 16:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] pid_namespace: allow opening pid_for_children before init was created Pavel Tikhomirov
2026-02-20 16:42 ` [PATCH 2/2] selftests: Add tests for creating pidns init via setns Pavel Tikhomirov
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Tikhomirov @ 2026-02-20 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christian Brauner, Shuah Khan
Cc: Jan Kara, Oleg Nesterov, Aleksa Sarai, Andrei Vagin, Kirill Tkhai,
Alexander Mikhalitsyn, Adrian Reber, Pavel Tikhomirov,
linux-kernel, linux-kselftest
The first patch allows to join pid namespace before pid namespace init
is created, that allows to create pid namespace by one process and then
create pid namespace init from another process after setns(). Please see
the detailed description in the patch commit message.
The second patch is a comprehansive test, which tests both basic usecase
of creating pid namespace and init separately, and a more specific
usecase which shows how we can improve clone3(set_tid) usability after
this change.
This is generally useful as it makes clone3(set_tid) more universal, and
work in all the cases evenly. Also is highly useful to CRIU to handle
nested containers.
This series is also available here:
https://github.com/Snorch/linux/commits/allow-creating-pid-namespace-init-after-setns/
Signed-off-by: Pavel Tikhomirov <ptikhomirov@virtuozzo.com>
Pavel Tikhomirov (2):
pid_namespace: allow opening pid_for_children before init was created
selftests: Add tests for creating pidns init via setns
kernel/pid.c | 10 +-
kernel/pid_namespace.c | 9 -
.../selftests/pid_namespace/.gitignore | 1 +
.../testing/selftests/pid_namespace/Makefile | 2 +-
.../pid_namespace/pidns_init_via_setns.c | 238 ++++++++++++++++++
5 files changed, 249 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/pidns_init_via_setns.c
--
2.53.0
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* [PATCH 1/2] pid_namespace: allow opening pid_for_children before init was created
2026-02-20 16:42 [PATCH 0/2] pid_namespace: make init creation more flexible Pavel Tikhomirov
@ 2026-02-20 16:42 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2026-02-22 15:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-02-20 16:42 ` [PATCH 2/2] selftests: Add tests for creating pidns init via setns Pavel Tikhomirov
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Tikhomirov @ 2026-02-20 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christian Brauner, Shuah Khan
Cc: Jan Kara, Oleg Nesterov, Aleksa Sarai, Andrei Vagin, Kirill Tkhai,
Alexander Mikhalitsyn, Adrian Reber, Pavel Tikhomirov,
linux-kernel, linux-kselftest
This effectively gives us an ability to create the pid namespace init as
a child of the process (setns-ed to the pid namespace) different to the
process which created the pid namespace itself.
Original problem:
There is a cool set_tid feature in clone3() syscall, it allows you to
create process with desired pids on multiple pid namespace levels. Which
is useful to restore processes in CRIU for nested pid namespace case.
In nested container case we can potentially see this kind of pid/user
namespace tree:
Process
┌─────────┐
User NS0 ──▶ Pid NS0 ──▶ Pid p0 │
│ │ │ │
▼ ▼ │ │
User NS1 ──▶ Pid NS1 ──▶ Pid p1 │
│ │ │ │
... ... │ ... │
│ │ │ │
▼ ▼ │ │
User NSn ──▶ Pid NSn ──▶ Pid pn │
└─────────┘
So to create the "Process" and set pids {p0, p1, ... pn} for it on all
pid namespace levels we can use clone3() syscall set_tid feature, BUT
the syscall does not allow you to set pid on pid namespace levels you
don't have permission to. So basically you have to be in "User NS0" when
creating the "Process" to actually be able to set pids on all levels.
It is ok for almost any process, but with pid namespace init this does
not work, as currently we can only create pid namespace init and the pid
namespace itself simultaneously, so to make "Pid NSn" owned by "User
NSn" we have to be in the "User NSn".
We can't possibly be in "User NS0" and "User NSn" at the same time,
hence the problem.
Alternative solution:
Yes, for the case of pid namespace init we can use old and gold
/proc/sys/kernel/ns_last_pid interface on the levels lower than n. But
it is much more complicated and introduces tons of extra code to do. It
would be nice to make clone3() set_tid interface also aplicable to this
corner case.
Implementation:
Now when anyone can setns to the pid namespace before the creation of
init, and thus multiple processes can fork children to the pid
namespace, we enforce that the first process created is always the init,
and only allow other processes after the init passed the same steps as
were previously required to allow to do setns.
Signed-off-by: Pavel Tikhomirov <ptikhomirov@virtuozzo.com>
---
kernel/pid.c | 10 +++++++++-
kernel/pid_namespace.c | 9 ---------
2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
diff --git a/kernel/pid.c b/kernel/pid.c
index a31771bc89c1..d549f08036ab 100644
--- a/kernel/pid.c
+++ b/kernel/pid.c
@@ -188,9 +188,15 @@ struct pid *alloc_pid(struct pid_namespace *ns, pid_t *set_tid,
pid->level = ns->level;
for (i = ns->level; i >= 0; i--) {
+ bool pidns_ready = true;
int tid = 0;
int pid_max = READ_ONCE(tmp->pid_max);
+ read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
+ if (!tmp->child_reaper)
+ pidns_ready = false;
+ read_unlock(&tasklist_lock);
+
if (set_tid_size) {
tid = set_tid[ns->level - i];
@@ -201,7 +207,7 @@ struct pid *alloc_pid(struct pid_namespace *ns, pid_t *set_tid,
* Also fail if a PID != 1 is requested and
* no PID 1 exists.
*/
- if (tid != 1 && !tmp->child_reaper)
+ if (tid != 1 && !pidns_ready)
goto out_free;
retval = -EPERM;
if (!checkpoint_restore_ns_capable(tmp->user_ns))
@@ -221,6 +227,8 @@ struct pid *alloc_pid(struct pid_namespace *ns, pid_t *set_tid,
*/
if (nr == -ENOSPC)
nr = -EEXIST;
+ } else if (!pidns_ready && idr_get_cursor(&tmp->idr) != 0) {
+ nr = -EINVAL;
} else {
int pid_min = 1;
/*
diff --git a/kernel/pid_namespace.c b/kernel/pid_namespace.c
index e48f5de41361..d36afc58ee1d 100644
--- a/kernel/pid_namespace.c
+++ b/kernel/pid_namespace.c
@@ -369,15 +369,6 @@ static struct ns_common *pidns_for_children_get(struct task_struct *task)
}
task_unlock(task);
- if (ns) {
- read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
- if (!ns->child_reaper) {
- put_pid_ns(ns);
- ns = NULL;
- }
- read_unlock(&tasklist_lock);
- }
-
return ns ? &ns->ns : NULL;
}
--
2.53.0
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* [PATCH 2/2] selftests: Add tests for creating pidns init via setns
2026-02-20 16:42 [PATCH 0/2] pid_namespace: make init creation more flexible Pavel Tikhomirov
2026-02-20 16:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] pid_namespace: allow opening pid_for_children before init was created Pavel Tikhomirov
@ 2026-02-20 16:42 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Tikhomirov @ 2026-02-20 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christian Brauner, Shuah Khan
Cc: Jan Kara, Oleg Nesterov, Aleksa Sarai, Andrei Vagin, Kirill Tkhai,
Alexander Mikhalitsyn, Adrian Reber, Pavel Tikhomirov,
linux-kernel, linux-kselftest
First testcase "pidns_init_via_setns" checks that a process can become
Pid 1 (init) in a new Pid namespace created via unshare() and joined via
setns().
Second testcase "pidns_init_via_setns_set_tid" checks that during this
process we can use clone3() + set_tid and set the pid in both the new
and old pid namespaces (owned by different user namespaces).
Signed-off-by: Pavel Tikhomirov <ptikhomirov@virtuozzo.com>
---
.../selftests/pid_namespace/.gitignore | 1 +
.../testing/selftests/pid_namespace/Makefile | 2 +-
.../pid_namespace/pidns_init_via_setns.c | 238 ++++++++++++++++++
3 files changed, 240 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/pidns_init_via_setns.c
diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/.gitignore b/tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/.gitignore
index 5118f0f3edf4..c647c6eb3367 100644
--- a/tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/.gitignore
+++ b/tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/.gitignore
@@ -1,2 +1,3 @@
pid_max
+pidns_init_via_setns
regression_enomem
diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/Makefile b/tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/Makefile
index b972f55d07ae..b01a924ac04b 100644
--- a/tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/Makefile
+++ b/tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/Makefile
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
CFLAGS += -g $(KHDR_INCLUDES)
-TEST_GEN_PROGS = regression_enomem pid_max
+TEST_GEN_PROGS = regression_enomem pid_max pidns_init_via_setns
LOCAL_HDRS += $(selfdir)/pidfd/pidfd.h
diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/pidns_init_via_setns.c b/tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/pidns_init_via_setns.c
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..7e4c610291d3
--- /dev/null
+++ b/tools/testing/selftests/pid_namespace/pidns_init_via_setns.c
@@ -0,0 +1,238 @@
+// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
+#define _GNU_SOURCE
+#include <fcntl.h>
+#include <sched.h>
+#include <stdio.h>
+#include <sys/types.h>
+#include <unistd.h>
+
+#include "kselftest_harness.h"
+#include "../pidfd/pidfd.h"
+
+/*
+ * Test that a process can become PID 1 (init) in a new PID namespace
+ * created via unshare() and joined via setns().
+ *
+ * Flow:
+ * 1. Parent creates a pipe for synchronization.
+ * 2. Parent forks a child.
+ * 3. Parent calls unshare(CLONE_NEWPID) to create a new PID namespace.
+ * 4. Parent signals the child via the pipe.
+ * 5. Child opens parent's /proc/<ppid>/ns/pid_for_children and calls
+ * setns(fd, CLONE_NEWPID) to join the new namespace.
+ * 6. Child forks a grandchild.
+ * 7. Grandchild verifies getpid() == 1.
+ */
+TEST(pidns_init_via_setns)
+{
+ pid_t child, parent_pid;
+ int pipe_fd[2];
+ char buf;
+
+ parent_pid = getpid();
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, pipe(pipe_fd));
+
+ child = fork();
+ ASSERT_GE(child, 0);
+
+ if (child == 0) {
+ char path[256];
+ int nsfd;
+ pid_t grandchild;
+
+ close(pipe_fd[1]);
+
+ /* Wait for parent to complete unshare */
+ ASSERT_EQ(1, read_nointr(pipe_fd[0], &buf, 1));
+ close(pipe_fd[0]);
+
+ snprintf(path, sizeof(path),
+ "/proc/%d/ns/pid_for_children", parent_pid);
+ nsfd = open(path, O_RDONLY);
+ ASSERT_GE(nsfd, 0);
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, setns(nsfd, CLONE_NEWPID));
+ close(nsfd);
+
+ grandchild = fork();
+ ASSERT_GE(grandchild, 0);
+
+ if (grandchild == 0) {
+ /* Should be init (PID 1) in the new namespace */
+ if (getpid() != 1)
+ _exit(1);
+ _exit(0);
+ }
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, wait_for_pid(grandchild));
+ _exit(0);
+ }
+
+ close(pipe_fd[0]);
+
+ if (geteuid())
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, unshare(CLONE_NEWUSER));
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, unshare(CLONE_NEWPID));
+
+ /* Signal child that the new PID namespace is ready */
+ buf = 0;
+ ASSERT_EQ(1, write_nointr(pipe_fd[1], &buf, 1));
+ close(pipe_fd[1]);
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, wait_for_pid(child));
+}
+
+/*
+ * Similar to pidns_init_via_setns, but:
+ * 1. Parent enters a new PID namespace right from the start to be able to
+ * later freely use pid 1001 in it.
+ * 2. After forking child, parent also calls unshare(CLONE_NEWUSER)
+ * before unshare(CLONE_NEWPID) so that new old and new pid namespaces have
+ * different user namespace owners.
+ * 3. Child uses clone3() with set_tid={1, 1001} instead of fork() and
+ * grandchild checks that it gets desired pids .
+ *
+ * Flow:
+ * 1. Test process creates a new PID namespace and forks a wrapper
+ * (PID 1 in the outer namespace).
+ * 2. Wrapper forks a child.
+ * 3. Wrapper calls unshare(CLONE_NEWUSER) + unshare(CLONE_NEWPID)
+ * to create an inner PID namespace.
+ * 4. Wrapper signals the child via pipe.
+ * 5. Child opens wrapper's /proc/<pid>/ns/pid_for_children and calls
+ * setns(fd, CLONE_NEWPID) to join the inner namespace.
+ * 6. Child calls clone3() with set_tid={1, 1001}.
+ * 7. Grandchild verifies its NSpid ends with "1001 1".
+ */
+
+pid_t set_tid[] = {1, 1001};
+
+static int pidns_init_via_setns_set_tid_grandchild(struct __test_metadata *_metadata)
+{
+ char *line = NULL;
+ size_t len = 0;
+ int found = 0;
+ FILE *gf;
+
+ gf = fopen("/proc/self/status", "r");
+ ASSERT_NE(gf, NULL);
+
+ while (getline(&line, &len, gf) != -1) {
+ if (strncmp(line, "NSpid:", 6) != 0)
+ continue;
+
+ for (int i = 0; i < 2; i++) {
+ char *last = strrchr(line, '\t');
+ pid_t pid;
+
+ ASSERT_NE(last, NULL);
+ ASSERT_EQ(sscanf(last, "%d", &pid), 1);
+ ASSERT_EQ(pid, set_tid[i]);
+ *last = '\0';
+ }
+
+ found = true;
+ break;
+ }
+
+ free(line);
+ fclose(gf);
+ ASSERT_TRUE(found);
+ return 0;
+}
+
+static int pidns_init_via_setns_set_tid_child(struct __test_metadata *_metadata,
+ pid_t parent_pid, int pipe_fd[2])
+{
+ struct __clone_args args = {
+ .exit_signal = SIGCHLD,
+ .set_tid = ptr_to_u64(set_tid),
+ .set_tid_size = 2,
+ };
+ pid_t grandchild;
+ char path[256];
+ char buf;
+ int nsfd;
+
+ close(pipe_fd[1]);
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(1, read_nointr(pipe_fd[0], &buf, 1));
+ close(pipe_fd[0]);
+
+ snprintf(path, sizeof(path),
+ "/proc/%d/ns/pid_for_children", parent_pid);
+ nsfd = open(path, O_RDONLY);
+ ASSERT_GE(nsfd, 0);
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, setns(nsfd, CLONE_NEWPID));
+ close(nsfd);
+
+ grandchild = sys_clone3(&args, sizeof(args));
+ ASSERT_GE(grandchild, 0);
+
+ if (grandchild == 0)
+ _exit(pidns_init_via_setns_set_tid_grandchild(_metadata));
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, wait_for_pid(grandchild));
+ return 0;
+}
+
+static int pidns_init_via_setns_set_tid_wrapper(struct __test_metadata *_metadata)
+{
+ int pipe_fd[2];
+ pid_t child, parent_pid;
+ char buf;
+ FILE *f;
+
+ /*
+ * We are PID 1 inside the new namespace, but /proc is
+ * mounted from the host. Read our host-visible PID so
+ * the child can reach our pid_for_children via /proc.
+ */
+ f = fopen("/proc/self/stat", "r");
+ ASSERT_NE(f, NULL);
+ ASSERT_EQ(fscanf(f, "%d", &parent_pid), 1);
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, pipe(pipe_fd));
+
+ child = fork();
+ ASSERT_GE(child, 0);
+
+ if (child == 0)
+ _exit(pidns_init_via_setns_set_tid_child(_metadata, parent_pid, pipe_fd));
+
+ close(pipe_fd[0]);
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, unshare(CLONE_NEWUSER));
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, unshare(CLONE_NEWPID));
+
+ buf = 0;
+ ASSERT_EQ(1, write_nointr(pipe_fd[1], &buf, 1));
+ close(pipe_fd[1]);
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, wait_for_pid(child));
+
+ fclose(f);
+ return 0;
+}
+
+TEST(pidns_init_via_setns_set_tid)
+{
+ pid_t wrapper;
+
+ if (geteuid())
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, unshare(CLONE_NEWUSER));
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, unshare(CLONE_NEWPID));
+
+ wrapper = fork();
+ ASSERT_GE(wrapper, 0);
+
+ if (wrapper == 0)
+ _exit(pidns_init_via_setns_set_tid_wrapper(_metadata));
+
+ ASSERT_EQ(0, wait_for_pid(wrapper));
+}
+
+TEST_HARNESS_MAIN
--
2.53.0
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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] pid_namespace: allow opening pid_for_children before init was created
2026-02-20 16:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] pid_namespace: allow opening pid_for_children before init was created Pavel Tikhomirov
@ 2026-02-22 15:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-02-22 16:41 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2026-02-22 16:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Oleg Nesterov @ 2026-02-22 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pavel Tikhomirov
Cc: Christian Brauner, Shuah Khan, Jan Kara, Aleksa Sarai,
Andrei Vagin, Kirill Tkhai, Alexander Mikhalitsyn, Adrian Reber,
linux-kernel, linux-kselftest
Pavel,
Your patch doesn't apply to Linus's tree.
and in any case... can you avoid read_lock(tasklist) in alloc_pid() ?
This is really not good.
Oleg.
On 02/20, Pavel Tikhomirov wrote:
>
> This effectively gives us an ability to create the pid namespace init as
> a child of the process (setns-ed to the pid namespace) different to the
> process which created the pid namespace itself.
>
> Original problem:
>
> There is a cool set_tid feature in clone3() syscall, it allows you to
> create process with desired pids on multiple pid namespace levels. Which
> is useful to restore processes in CRIU for nested pid namespace case.
>
> In nested container case we can potentially see this kind of pid/user
> namespace tree:
>
> Process
> ┌─────────┐
> User NS0 ──▶ Pid NS0 ──▶ Pid p0 │
> │ │ │ │
> ▼ ▼ │ │
> User NS1 ──▶ Pid NS1 ──▶ Pid p1 │
> │ │ │ │
> ... ... │ ... │
> │ │ │ │
> ▼ ▼ │ │
> User NSn ──▶ Pid NSn ──▶ Pid pn │
> └─────────┘
>
> So to create the "Process" and set pids {p0, p1, ... pn} for it on all
> pid namespace levels we can use clone3() syscall set_tid feature, BUT
> the syscall does not allow you to set pid on pid namespace levels you
> don't have permission to. So basically you have to be in "User NS0" when
> creating the "Process" to actually be able to set pids on all levels.
>
> It is ok for almost any process, but with pid namespace init this does
> not work, as currently we can only create pid namespace init and the pid
> namespace itself simultaneously, so to make "Pid NSn" owned by "User
> NSn" we have to be in the "User NSn".
>
> We can't possibly be in "User NS0" and "User NSn" at the same time,
> hence the problem.
>
> Alternative solution:
>
> Yes, for the case of pid namespace init we can use old and gold
> /proc/sys/kernel/ns_last_pid interface on the levels lower than n. But
> it is much more complicated and introduces tons of extra code to do. It
> would be nice to make clone3() set_tid interface also aplicable to this
> corner case.
>
> Implementation:
>
> Now when anyone can setns to the pid namespace before the creation of
> init, and thus multiple processes can fork children to the pid
> namespace, we enforce that the first process created is always the init,
> and only allow other processes after the init passed the same steps as
> were previously required to allow to do setns.
>
> Signed-off-by: Pavel Tikhomirov <ptikhomirov@virtuozzo.com>
> ---
> kernel/pid.c | 10 +++++++++-
> kernel/pid_namespace.c | 9 ---------
> 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/pid.c b/kernel/pid.c
> index a31771bc89c1..d549f08036ab 100644
> --- a/kernel/pid.c
> +++ b/kernel/pid.c
> @@ -188,9 +188,15 @@ struct pid *alloc_pid(struct pid_namespace *ns, pid_t *set_tid,
> pid->level = ns->level;
>
> for (i = ns->level; i >= 0; i--) {
> + bool pidns_ready = true;
> int tid = 0;
> int pid_max = READ_ONCE(tmp->pid_max);
>
> + read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
> + if (!tmp->child_reaper)
> + pidns_ready = false;
> + read_unlock(&tasklist_lock);
> +
> if (set_tid_size) {
> tid = set_tid[ns->level - i];
>
> @@ -201,7 +207,7 @@ struct pid *alloc_pid(struct pid_namespace *ns, pid_t *set_tid,
> * Also fail if a PID != 1 is requested and
> * no PID 1 exists.
> */
> - if (tid != 1 && !tmp->child_reaper)
> + if (tid != 1 && !pidns_ready)
> goto out_free;
> retval = -EPERM;
> if (!checkpoint_restore_ns_capable(tmp->user_ns))
> @@ -221,6 +227,8 @@ struct pid *alloc_pid(struct pid_namespace *ns, pid_t *set_tid,
> */
> if (nr == -ENOSPC)
> nr = -EEXIST;
> + } else if (!pidns_ready && idr_get_cursor(&tmp->idr) != 0) {
> + nr = -EINVAL;
> } else {
> int pid_min = 1;
> /*
> diff --git a/kernel/pid_namespace.c b/kernel/pid_namespace.c
> index e48f5de41361..d36afc58ee1d 100644
> --- a/kernel/pid_namespace.c
> +++ b/kernel/pid_namespace.c
> @@ -369,15 +369,6 @@ static struct ns_common *pidns_for_children_get(struct task_struct *task)
> }
> task_unlock(task);
>
> - if (ns) {
> - read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
> - if (!ns->child_reaper) {
> - put_pid_ns(ns);
> - ns = NULL;
> - }
> - read_unlock(&tasklist_lock);
> - }
> -
> return ns ? &ns->ns : NULL;
> }
>
> --
> 2.53.0
>
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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] pid_namespace: allow opening pid_for_children before init was created
2026-02-22 15:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
@ 2026-02-22 16:41 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2026-02-22 16:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Tikhomirov @ 2026-02-22 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Oleg Nesterov
Cc: Christian Brauner, Shuah Khan, Jan Kara, Aleksa Sarai,
Andrei Vagin, Kirill Tkhai, Alexander Mikhalitsyn, Adrian Reber,
linux-kernel, linux-kselftest
On 2/22/26 16:38, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> Pavel,
>
> Your patch doesn't apply to Linus's tree.
Oh, sorry, for some reason I based it on top of v6.19. Will rebase, I
guess, when I figure out the second (tasklist lock) part.
>
> and in any case... can you avoid read_lock(tasklist) in alloc_pid() ?
> This is really not good.
I tried this logic with the tasklist lock to be on the safe side, it makes
sure that when a second process in the pid namespace is created, the pid
namespace is in exactly the same initialization stage as before. Moreover
the tasklist lock is already taken in the caller of alloc_pid a bit later,
so I thought it's not that bad.
I understand that taking the global lock is probably a bad idea if we can
in reality do without it. I will try to dive into the code around setting
child_reaper under tasklist lock and see if there is something which will
be not initialized enough if we check child_reaper and see it set in the
second process without lock.
Thank you for review!
>
> Oleg.
--
Best regards, Pavel Tikhomirov
Senior Software Developer, Virtuozzo.
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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] pid_namespace: allow opening pid_for_children before init was created
2026-02-22 15:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-02-22 16:41 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
@ 2026-02-22 16:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-02-23 17:24 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Oleg Nesterov @ 2026-02-22 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pavel Tikhomirov
Cc: Christian Brauner, Shuah Khan, Jan Kara, Aleksa Sarai,
Andrei Vagin, Kirill Tkhai, Alexander Mikhalitsyn, Adrian Reber,
linux-kernel, linux-kselftest
On 02/22, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> Pavel,
>
> Your patch doesn't apply to Linus's tree.
>
> and in any case... can you avoid read_lock(tasklist) in alloc_pid() ?
> This is really not good.
I'm afraid I am totally confused, but it looks unnecessary.
Once ->child_reaper is set, it can be changed but not cleared.
This means that pidns_for_children_get() doesn't need tasklist too.
However. With or without this patch, we probably need WRITE_ONCE()
in find_child_reaper() and copy_process() + READ_ONCE() in alloc_pid()
to avoid the possible warnings from KCSAN.
No?
Oleg.
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* Re: [PATCH 1/2] pid_namespace: allow opening pid_for_children before init was created
2026-02-22 16:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
@ 2026-02-23 17:24 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Tikhomirov @ 2026-02-23 17:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Oleg Nesterov
Cc: Christian Brauner, Shuah Khan, Jan Kara, Aleksa Sarai,
Andrei Vagin, Kirill Tkhai, Alexander Mikhalitsyn, Adrian Reber,
linux-kernel, linux-kselftest
On 2/22/26 17:55, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 02/22, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>
>> Pavel,
>>
>> Your patch doesn't apply to Linus's tree.
>>
>> and in any case... can you avoid read_lock(tasklist) in alloc_pid() ?
>> This is really not good.
>
> I'm afraid I am totally confused, but it looks unnecessary.
>
> Once ->child_reaper is set, it can be changed but not cleared.
Yes.
> This means that pidns_for_children_get() doesn't need tasklist too.
I originally thought that, maybe, something around first setting of
->child_reaper had to be observed together with child_reaper change.
But yes, I looked into the code around it and failed to identify
something like that.
>
> However. With or without this patch, we probably need WRITE_ONCE()
> in find_child_reaper() and copy_process() + READ_ONCE() in alloc_pid()
> to avoid the possible warnings from KCSAN.
OK, I will add this, sounds like a good idea. Thanks!
>
> No?
>
> Oleg.
>
--
Best regards, Pavel Tikhomirov
Senior Software Developer, Virtuozzo.
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