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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	will@kernel.org, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	jannh@google.com, anshuman.khandual@arm.com, peterx@redhat.com,
	joey.gouly@arm.com, ioworker0@gmail.com, baohua@kernel.org,
	kevin.brodsky@arm.com, quic_zhenhuah@quicinc.com,
	christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu, yangyicong@hisilicon.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, hughd@google.com,
	yang@os.amperecomputing.com, ziy@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() by PTE batching
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2025 12:28:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa496798-5ac6-4cb0-bdc2-91515172e935@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d0d58a4-bd27-41ac-9b25-1cd989c02383@arm.com>

On 06.08.25 12:20, Dev Jain wrote:
> 
> On 06/08/25 3:41 pm, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 06.08.25 11:50, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 06, 2025 at 03:07:49PM +0530, Dev Jain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You mean in _this_ PTE of the batch right? As we're invoking these
>>>>>> on each part
>>>>>> of the PTE table.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mean I guess we can simply do:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       struct page *first_page = pte_page(ptent);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but we should forward the result from vm_normal_page(), which
>>>>> does
>>>>> exactly that for you, and increment the page accordingly as required,
>>>>> just like with the pte we are processing.
>>>>
>>>> Makes sense, so I guess I will have to change the signature of
>>>> prot_numa_skip()
>>>>
>>>> to pass a double ptr to a page instead of folio and derive the folio
>>>> in the
>>>> caller,
>>>>
>>>> and pass down both the folio and the page to
>>>> set_write_prot_commit_flush_ptes.
>>>
>>> I already don't love how we psas the folio back from there for very
>>> dubious
>>> benefit. I really hate the idea of having a struct **page parameter...
>>>
>>> I wonder if we should just have a quick fixup for hotfix, and refine
>>> this more
>>> later?
>>
>> This is not an issue in any released kernel, so we can do this properly.
>>
>> We should just remove that nested vm_normal_folio().
>>
>> Untested, but should give an idea what we can do.
> 
> This puts the overhead of vm_normal_folio() unconditionally into the
> pte_present path.
> 
> Although I am guessing that is already happening assuming prot_numa case
> is not the
> 
> hot path. This is fine by me. So I guess I shouldn't have done that
> "reuse the folio
> 
> from prot_numa case if possible" thingy at all :)

I mean, it only applies when trying to NUMA-protect something that is
already protected. Not sure how relevant that is in practice.

As we don't even batch these today, we could just do:

diff --git a/mm/mprotect.c b/mm/mprotect.c
index 4e0a22f7db495..2154a1a3c6656 100644
--- a/mm/mprotect.c
+++ b/mm/mprotect.c
@@ -127,10 +127,6 @@ static bool prot_numa_skip(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long addr,
         bool toptier;
         int nid;
  
-       /* Avoid TLB flush if possible */
-       if (pte_protnone(oldpte))
-               goto skip;
-
         if (!folio)
                 goto skip;
  
@@ -304,6 +300,9 @@ static long change_pte_range(struct mmu_gather *tlb,
                         struct page *page;
                         pte_t ptent;
  
+                       if (prot_numa && pte_protnone(oldpte))
+                               continue;
+
                         page = vm_normal_folio(vma, addr, oldpte);
                         if (page)
                                 folio = page_folio(page);


But with my change, we could actually batch-skip such large folios,
because mprotect_folio_pte_batch() would see the folio.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-06 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-18  9:02 [PATCH v5 0/7] Optimize mprotect() for large folios Dev Jain
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] mm: Refactor MM_CP_PROT_NUMA skipping case into new function Dev Jain
2025-07-18 16:19   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 23:44   ` Barry Song
2025-07-21  3:44     ` Dev Jain
2025-07-22 11:05       ` Dev Jain
2025-07-22 11:25   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 13:57   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() for MM_CP_PROT_NUMA by batch-skipping PTEs Dev Jain
2025-07-18 16:40   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 11:26   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 14:25   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] mm: Add batched versions of ptep_modify_prot_start/commit Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:05   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 23:59   ` Barry Song
2025-07-22 11:35   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 15:09   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] mm: Introduce FPB_RESPECT_WRITE for PTE batching infrastructure Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:12   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-22 11:37   ` Ryan Roberts
2025-07-23 15:28   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-23 15:32     ` Dev Jain
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] mm: Split can_change_pte_writable() into private and shared parts Dev Jain
2025-07-18 17:27   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-23 15:40   ` Zi Yan
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] mm: Optimize mprotect() by PTE batching Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:49   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-19 13:46     ` Dev Jain
2025-07-20 11:20       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-20 14:39         ` Dev Jain
2025-07-24 19:55   ` Zi Yan
2025-08-06  8:08   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06  8:12     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06  8:15     ` Will Deacon
2025-08-06  8:19       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06  8:53     ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06  8:56       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06  9:12     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06  9:21       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06  9:37         ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06  9:50           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06 10:11             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-06 10:20               ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 10:28                 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-08-06 10:45                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-06 10:45               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
     [not found]             ` <1b3d4799-2a57-4f16-973b-82fc7b438862@arm.com>
2025-08-06 10:07               ` Dev Jain
2025-08-06 10:12               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-18  9:02 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] arm64: Add batched versions of ptep_modify_prot_start/commit Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:50   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-21 15:57   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-07-18  9:50 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Optimize mprotect() for large folios Dev Jain
2025-07-18 18:53   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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