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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Donald Hunter" <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	"Todd Kjos" <tkjos@android.com>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Carlos Llamas" <cmllamas@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] rust: netlink: add raw netlink abstraction
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2026 08:38:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa6G6sLatJ3W631D@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6022a652-36f2-4dc6-b24e-54c27b095e97@lunn.ch>

On Sun, Mar 08, 2026 at 06:24:16PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > If that is the case, then it sounds like the correct API design would be
> > to have a separate NetlinkSkBuff type so that you cannot mix them up
> > with an sk_buff used for packet data.
> > 
> > > So, maybe you can have a base definition of skbuff in rust/kernel/net,
> > > and build on top of that to make a netlink specific skbuff, with a
> > > limited list of methods which can access it, those needed for netlink?
> > > Make use of the Rust type system? And leave the messy fast path packet
> > > data things for somebody else.
> > 
> > That makes sense to me. If there is duplication between the two sk_buff
> > types, then one can be defined in terms of the other (or maybe it's
> > easier to not do that).
> 
> Probably struct sk_buff is one of those complex things where we make
> our best guess design now, and be prepared to redesign and refactor
> the code as we learn more. To me, it feels like we need a base SkBuff
> with full access to all API methods. And then a restricted type for
> NetlinkSkBuff on top of that for users of netlink.

Agreed. Though in this patchset, I don't believe I use any of the base
skbuff methods, except for the fact that the nlmsg methods seem to wrap
them. So it is probably dead code to add much right now unless I bypass
the nlmsg wrappers.

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-09  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-06 15:12 [PATCH 0/4] Rust netlink support + use in Rust Binder Alice Ryhl
2026-03-06 15:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] rust: netlink: add raw netlink abstraction Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 15:43   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-07 21:28     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-08 14:48       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-08 15:23         ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-08 17:24           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-09  8:38             ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2026-03-06 15:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] ynl_gen: generate Rust files from yaml files Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 18:41   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-07 21:30     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-06 15:12 ` [PATCH 3/4] rust_binder: add generated netlink.rs file Alice Ryhl
2026-03-16 12:07   ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-03-06 15:12 ` [PATCH 4/4] rust_binder: report netlink transactions Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 16:56   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-07 21:19     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 18:41 ` [PATCH 0/4] Rust netlink support + use in Rust Binder Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-07 21:19   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 21:39     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-07 22:41       ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-08 14:12         ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-08 15:08           ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 21:59     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-07 22:50       ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-09 21:24         ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-10  7:47           ` Alice Ryhl

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