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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] KVM: x86: Check for injected exceptions before queuing a debug exception
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2026 08:34:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaHHg2-lcpvkejB8@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aaG_o58_0aHT8Xjg@google.com>

On Fri, Feb 27, 2026, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> So instead of patch 1, I want to try either (a) blocking KVM_SET_VCPU_EVENTS,
> KVM_X86_SET_MCE, and KVM_SET_GUEST_DEBUG if nested_run_pending=1, *and* follow-up
> with the below WARN-spree, or (b) add a separate flag, e.g. nested_run_in_progress
> or so, that is set with nested_run_pending, but cleared on an exit to userspace,
> and then WARN on _that_, i.e. so that we can detect KVM bugs (the whole point of
> the WARN) and hopefully stop playing this losing game of whack-a-mole with syzkaller.
> 
> I think I'm leaning toward (b)?  Except for KVM_SET_GUEST_DEBUG, where userspace
> is trying to interpose on the guest, restricting ioctls doesn't really add any
> value in practice.  Yeah, in theory it could _maybe_ prevent userspace from shooting
> itself in the foot, but practically speaking, if userspace is restoring state into
> a vCPU with nested_run_pending=1, it's either playing on expert mode or is already
> completely broken.
> 
> My only hesitation with (b) is that KVM wouldn't be entirely consistent, since
> vmx_unhandleable_emulation_required() _does_ explicitly reject a "userspace did
> something stupid with nested_run_pending=1" case.  So from that perspective, part
> of me wants to get greedy and try for (a).

On second (fifth?) thought, I don't think (a) is a good idea.  In addition to
potentially breaking userspace, it also risks preventing genuinely useful sequences.
E.g. even if no VMM does so today, it's entirely plausible that a VMM could want
to asynchronously inject an #MC to mimic a broadcast, and that the injection could
collide with a pending nested VM-Enter.

I'll send a separate (maybe RFC?) series for (b) using patch 1 as a starting point.
I want to fiddle around with some ideas, and it'll be faster to sketch things out
in code versus trying to describe things in text.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-27 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-27  1:13 [PATCH 0/3] KVM: x86: Fix incorrect handling of triple faults Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-27  1:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] KVM: x86: Move nested_run_pending to kvm_vcpu_arch Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-27  1:13 ` [PATCH 2/3] KVM: x86: Do not inject triple faults into an L2 with a pending run Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-27  1:13 ` [PATCH 3/3] KVM: x86: Check for injected exceptions before queuing a debug exception Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-27 16:06   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-27 16:34     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-02-27 17:31       ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-27 18:18         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-27 18:34           ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-02 23:22             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-02 23:36               ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-02 23:47                 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-05 17:26 ` [PATCH 0/3] KVM: x86: Fix incorrect handling of triple faults Sean Christopherson

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