From: Nikolaus Voss <nv@vosn.de>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Yael Tzur <yaelt@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KEYS: encrypted: fix key instantiation with user-provided data
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 12:04:22 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aac62bfc-2425-ffeb-1c49-e0963bdbfa99@vosn.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42dbb8f6bc0a3e8339a5283bf26a50bd7bec3767.camel@linux.ibm.com>
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 14:08 +0200, Nikolaus Voss wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2022, Mimi Zohar wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2022-09-21 at 09:24 +0200, Nikolaus Voss wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 20 Sep 2022, Mimi Zohar wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2022-09-20 at 18:23 +0200, Nikolaus Voss wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 20 Sep 2022, Mimi Zohar wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 2022-09-16 at 07:45 +0200, Nikolaus Voss wrote:
>>>>>>>> Commit cd3bc044af48 ("KEYS: encrypted: Instantiate key with user-provided
>>>>>>>> decrypted data") added key instantiation with user provided decrypted data.
>>>>>>>> The user data is hex-ascii-encoded but was just memcpy'ed to the binary buffer.
>>>>>>>> Fix this to use hex2bin instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Nikolaus. We iterated a number of times over what would be the
>>>>>>> safest userspace input. One of the last changes was that the key data
>>>>>>> should be hex-ascii-encoded. Unfortunately, the LTP
>>>>>>> testcases/kernel/syscalls/keyctl09.c example isn't hex-ascii-encoded
>>>>>>> and the example in Documentation/security/keys/trusted-encrypted.rst
>>>>>>> just cat's a file. Both expect the length to be the length of the
>>>>>>> userspace provided data. With this patch, when hex2bin() fails, there
>>>>>>> is no explanation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's true. But it's true for all occurrences of hex2bin() in this file.
>>>>>> I could pr_err() an explanation, improve the trusted-encrypted.rst example
>>>>>> and respin the patch. Should I, or do you have another suggestion?
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wasn't aware of keyctl09.c, but quickly looking into it, the user data
>>>>>> _is_ hex-ascii-encoded, only the length is "wrong": Imho, the specified
>>>>>> length should be the binary length as this is consistent with key-length
>>>>>> specs in other cases (e.g. when loading the key from a blob).
>>>>>> keyctl09.c could be easy to fix, if only the length is modified. Should
>>>>>> I propose a patch? What is the correct/appropriate workflow there?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm concerned that this change breaks existing encrypted keys created
>>>>> with user-provided data. Otherwise I'm fine with your suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, but this change does not touch the hex-ascii format of encrypted key
>>>> blobs?
>>>
>>> True, but any persistent data based on this key would be affected.
>>
>> Persistent data is stored encypted with e.g. the master key in hex-ascii
>> already and should not be affected. Only persistent data stored
>> unencrypted is affected, but the encrypted-keys stuff is just about
>> avoiding that. Or do I still misunderstand something?
>
> Perhaps an existing encrypted key usage example would help clarify what
> is meant by persistent data. The two original encrypted key usages are
> the EVM HMAC key and ecryptfs. The EVM key is an encrypted key used to
> calculate the EVM HMAC, which is stored in security.evm. In that
> scenario, the persistent data would be the data stored in security.evm.
>
> Would this patch break existing kernel/application persistent data
> based on encrypted keys created with user-provided data?
As far as I can tell, it does not.
Niko
prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-05 10:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-16 5:45 [PATCH] KEYS: encrypted: fix key instantiation with user-provided data Nikolaus Voss
2022-09-20 5:06 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-09-20 7:58 ` Nikolaus Voss
2022-09-21 17:51 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-09-28 13:03 ` Nikolaus Voss
2022-09-20 14:43 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-09-20 16:23 ` Nikolaus Voss
2022-09-20 22:53 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-09-21 7:24 ` Nikolaus Voss
2022-09-21 12:49 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-09-28 12:08 ` Nikolaus Voss
2022-09-28 16:33 ` Mimi Zohar
2022-10-05 10:04 ` Nikolaus Voss [this message]
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