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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosry@kernel.org>
Cc: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org,  "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	 Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 08/10] KVM: x86: nSVM: Save/restore gPAT with KVM_{GET,SET}_NESTED_STATE
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2026 11:55:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaiOQKHoSrpPNR9b@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO9r8zP+tdUtDwxzDVKbtCk7Ui5y=Zw_aZ+ptL4-H6-R5vXWTQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 04, 2026, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2026 at 11:11 AM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2026, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2026 at 9:11 AM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/nested.c b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/nested.c
> > > > index 991ee4c03363..099bf8ac10ee 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/nested.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/nested.c
> > > > @@ -1848,7 +1848,7 @@ static int svm_get_nested_state(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
> > > >         if (is_guest_mode(vcpu)) {
> > > >                 kvm_state.hdr.svm.vmcb_pa = svm->nested.vmcb12_gpa;
> > > >                 if (nested_npt_enabled(svm)) {
> > > > -                       kvm_state.hdr.svm.flags |= KVM_STATE_SVM_VALID_GPAT;
> > > > +                       kvm_state->flags |= KVM_STATE_NESTED_GPAT_VALID;
> > > >                         kvm_state.hdr.svm.gpat = svm->vmcb->save.g_pat;
> > > >                 }
> > > >                 kvm_state.size += KVM_STATE_NESTED_SVM_VMCB_SIZE;
> > > > @@ -1914,7 +1914,8 @@ static int svm_set_nested_state(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
> > > >
> > > >         if (kvm_state->flags & ~(KVM_STATE_NESTED_GUEST_MODE |
> > > >                                  KVM_STATE_NESTED_RUN_PENDING |
> > > > -                                KVM_STATE_NESTED_GIF_SET))
> > > > +                                KVM_STATE_NESTED_GIF_SET |
> > > > +                                KVM_STATE_NESTED_GPAT_VALID))
> > > >                 return -EINVAL;
> > >
> > > Unless I'm missing something, this breaks forward compatibility
> > > completely. An older kernel will refuse to accept a nested state blob
> > > with GPAT_VALID set.
> >
> > Argh, so we've painted ourselves into an impossible situation by restricting the
> > set of valid flags.  I.e. VMX's omission of checks on unknown flags is a feature,
> > not a bug.
> >
> > Chatted with Jim offlist, and he pointed out that KVM's standard way to deal with
> > this is to make setting the flag opt-in, e.g. KVM_CAP_X86_TRIPLE_FAULT_EVENT and
> > KVM_CAP_EXCEPTION_PAYLOAD.
> >
> > As much as I want to retroactively change KVM's documentation to state doing
> > KVM_SET_NESTED_STATE with data that didn't come from KVM_GET_NESTED_STATE is
> > unsupported, that feels too restrictive and could really bite us in the future.
> > And it doesn't help if there's already userspace that's putting garbage into the
> > header.
> >
> > So yeah, I don't see a better option than adding yet another capability.
> >
> > Can you send a new version based on `kvm-x86 next`?  (give me ~hour to drop these
> > and push).  This has snowballed beyond what I'm comfortable doing as fixup. :-(
> 
> Will the current patches still be reachable through
> kvm-x86-next-2026.03.03? I imagine Jim will want to pull those and
> change them directly as they have all your fixups (rather than
> reconstructing them).

Oh, yeah!  I was actually going to self-respond with that suggestion, then squirrel!

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-04 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-24  0:54 [PATCH v5 00/10] KVM: x86: nSVM: Improve PAT virtualization Jim Mattson
2026-02-24  0:54 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] KVM: x86: SVM: Remove vmcb_is_dirty() Jim Mattson
2026-02-24  0:54 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] KVM: x86: nSVM: Clear VMCB_NPT clean bit when updating hPAT from guest mode Jim Mattson
2026-02-24  0:54 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] KVM: x86: nSVM: Cache and validate vmcb12 g_pat Jim Mattson
2026-02-24  0:54 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] KVM: x86: nSVM: Set vmcb02.g_pat correctly for nested NPT Jim Mattson
2026-02-24  0:54 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] KVM: x86: nSVM: Redirect IA32_PAT accesses to either hPAT or gPAT Jim Mattson
2026-02-24 17:43   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-24 18:18     ` Jim Mattson
2026-02-24 19:04     ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-02-24  0:54 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] KVM: x86: Remove common handling of MSR_IA32_CR_PAT Jim Mattson
2026-02-24  0:54 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] KVM: x86: nSVM: Save gPAT to vmcb12.g_pat on VMEXIT Jim Mattson
2026-02-24  0:54 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] KVM: x86: nSVM: Save/restore gPAT with KVM_{GET,SET}_NESTED_STATE Jim Mattson
2026-03-04 17:11   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-04 18:37     ` Jim Mattson
2026-03-04 19:11       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-03-04 19:35         ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-03-04 19:55           ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-03-05 18:49             ` Jim Mattson
2026-02-24  0:54 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] KVM: x86: nSVM: Handle restore of legacy nested state Jim Mattson
2026-03-03 17:32   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-24  0:54 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] KVM: selftests: nSVM: Add svm_nested_pat test Jim Mattson
2026-03-05 17:08 ` [PATCH v5 00/10] KVM: x86: nSVM: Improve PAT virtualization Sean Christopherson

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