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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Donald Hunter" <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	"Todd Kjos" <tkjos@android.com>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Carlos Llamas" <cmllamas@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] rust: netlink: add raw netlink abstraction
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2026 21:28:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aayYhgy3pRxFWbr7@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <081b1f16-5c8b-4a18-a9f1-d56e757de4c0@lunn.ch>

On Sat, Mar 07, 2026 at 04:43:02PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > diff --git a/rust/kernel/netlink.rs b/rust/kernel/netlink.rs
> 
> ...
> 
> > +/// The default netlink message size.
> > +pub const GENLMSG_DEFAULT_SIZE: usize = bindings::GENLMSG_DEFAULT_SIZE;
> > +
> > +/// A wrapper around `struct sk_buff` for generic netlink messages.
> > +///
> > +/// # Invariants
> > +///
> > +/// The pointer has ownership over a valid `sk_buff`.
> > +pub struct SkBuff {
> > +    skb: NonNull<kernel::bindings::sk_buff>,
> > +}
> 
> struct sk_buff is a core data structure which appears all over the
> networking stack, but also other places like crypto, scsi, tty, file
> systems, etc. Since it is a top level data structure, it seems odd
> Rust puts it into netlink.rs.
> 
> How do you see the Rust SkBuff evolving to a general purpose data
> structure which can be used everywhere?

We can make a kernel::net module (rust/kernel/net/) and put it there
instead? I guess netlink.rs can also be a submodule of that.

Hmm ... but I'm currently using genlmsg_new() / nlmsg_free(), and I
assume the other use-cases do not go through those methods, since they
sound netlink specific.

To be honest, I'm new to the kernel's networking stack, so I probably
can't design Rust wrapper for sk_buff that supports all those different
usecases without someone walking me through how it works. It may or may
not be best to write a netlink-specific struct now and expand it later.

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-07 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-06 15:12 [PATCH 0/4] Rust netlink support + use in Rust Binder Alice Ryhl
2026-03-06 15:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] rust: netlink: add raw netlink abstraction Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 15:43   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-07 21:28     ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2026-03-08 14:48       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-08 15:23         ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-08 17:24           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-09  8:38             ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-06 15:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] ynl_gen: generate Rust files from yaml files Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 18:41   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-07 21:30     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-06 15:12 ` [PATCH 3/4] rust_binder: add generated netlink.rs file Alice Ryhl
2026-03-16 12:07   ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-03-06 15:12 ` [PATCH 4/4] rust_binder: report netlink transactions Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 16:56   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-07 21:19     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 18:41 ` [PATCH 0/4] Rust netlink support + use in Rust Binder Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-07 21:19   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 21:39     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-07 22:41       ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-08 14:12         ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-08 15:08           ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-07 21:59     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-07 22:50       ` Alice Ryhl
2026-03-09 21:24         ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-10  7:47           ` Alice Ryhl

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