From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: will@kernel.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, joro@8bytes.org,
bhelgaas@google.com, jgg@nvidia.com, rafael@kernel.org,
lenb@kernel.org, kees@kernel.org, baolu.lu@linux.intel.com,
smostafa@google.com, Alexander.Grest@microsoft.com,
kevin.tian@intel.com, miko.lenczewski@arm.com,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, vsethi@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Recover ATC invalidate timeouts
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2026 20:00:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <abB4cAjZjIvIzhkp@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <abB2V8VGfoh5yO45@Asurada-Nvidia>
On Tue, Mar 10, 2026 at 12:51:51PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2026 at 07:16:02PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2026 at 09:21:42PM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > + /*
> > > + * ATC timeout indicates the device has stopped responding to coherence
> > > + * protocol requests. The only safe recovery is a reset to flush stale
> > > + * cached translations. Note that pci_reset_function() internally calls
> > > + * pci_dev_reset_iommu_prepare/done() as well and ensures to block ATS
> > > + * if PCI-level reset fails.
> > > + */
> > > + if (!pci_reset_function(pdev)) {
> >
> > I'm a little uncomfortable with this, why is an IOMMU driver poking into
> > the PCI mechanics? I agree that a reset might be the right thing to do
> > here but we wouldn't want the IOMMU driver to trigger it.. Ideally, we'd
> > need a mechanism that bubbles up fatal IOMMU faults to the PCI core and
> > let it decide/perform the reset. Maybe this could mean adding another op
> > to struct pci_error_handlers or something like that?
>
> Robin/Jason already had similar remarks (to most of your other
> comments as well). I have acked their comments, and am already
> reworking on these.
>
Yea just saw those discussions as well, replied before seeing those.
> > > + /*
> > > + * If reset succeeds, set BME back. Otherwise, fence the system
> > > + * from a faulty device, in which case user will have to replug
> > > + * the device to invoke pci_set_master().
> > > + */
> > > + pci_dev_lock(pdev);
> >
> > Why are we using spinlock_irqsave across the worker? Also, why does
> > atc_recovery.lock have to be a spinlock? The workers run in process
> > context, and I also don't see anyone else take the atc_recovery.lock?
>
> I guess mutex would be okay here, since there is no other place
> access the linked list. Pairing a linked list with a spinlock is
> just a common practice..
>
Ack agreed. No problem with the type of the lock, just questioning the
choice to use spinlock_irqsave et al since I don't believe this could be
in interrupt context.
> > Why does it need to be irq-safe? If this can somehow run in irq context,
> > we also seem to be using pci_dev_lock and streams_mutex across the
> > worker?
>
> pci_dev_lock was to fence race on the PCI level. Yet, the entire
> BME call is probably not a good idea. So, dropping that means we
> won't need pci_dev_lock.
>
Ack.
> > Mixing mutexes with spinlocks is brittle and invites
> > "sleep-while-atomic" bugs in future refactors..
>
> Either streams_mutex or atc_recovery.lock was scoped for only a
> few lines each section. Each was released before the other one
> was taken. Where is the "mixing" or "sleep-while-atomic" case?
The case doesn't exist yet, I meant it as a warning against future
re-factors, since I didn't see the need to use a spinlock here, I didn't
understand why couldn't all 3 be mutexes when the existing 2 already
were.
Praan
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-10 20:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-05 5:21 [PATCH v1 0/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Reset PCI device upon ATC invalidate timeout Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 5:21 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] iommu: Do not call pci_dev_reset_iommu_done() unless reset succeeds Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 5:21 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Recover ATC invalidate timeouts Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 15:15 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-05 15:24 ` Robin Murphy
2026-03-05 21:06 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 23:30 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 23:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 15:24 ` Robin Murphy
2026-03-06 15:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-10 19:34 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-05 15:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-05 21:15 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-05 23:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 1:29 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 1:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 5:06 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 13:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:20 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 19:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:39 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 19:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-10 19:40 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-10 19:57 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-10 20:04 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-06 13:22 ` Robin Murphy
2026-03-06 14:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 20:18 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 20:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 20:34 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-06 3:22 ` Baolu Lu
2026-03-06 13:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:35 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-06 19:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 19:59 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-06 20:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 20:22 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-06 20:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-10 20:00 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-11 12:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-06 2:35 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-10 19:16 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-03-10 19:51 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-10 20:00 ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
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