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From: Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>
To: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org>
Cc: Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, arm-scmi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	philip.radford@arm.com, james.quinlan@broadcom.com,
	f.fainelli@gmail.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	etienne.carriere@foss.st.com, peng.fan@oss.nxp.com,
	michal.simek@amd.com, dan.carpenter@linaro.org,
	geert+renesas@glider.be, kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com,
	marek.vasut+renesas@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Harden clock protocol initialization
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2026 16:36:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abLrm7x8ggzAhYOg@pluto> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260312-classy-misty-platypus-5baea1@sudeepholla>

On Thu, Mar 12, 2026 at 03:33:52PM +0000, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2026 at 06:45:41PM +0000, Cristian Marussi wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2026 at 05:59:43PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > Hi Cristian,
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 10 Mar 2026 at 19:56, Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com> wrote:
> > > > Add proper error handling on failure to enumerate clocks features or
> > > > rates.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your patch!
> > > 
> > > > --- a/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/clock.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/clock.c
> > > 
> > > > @@ -1143,8 +1149,12 @@ static int scmi_clock_protocol_init(const struct scmi_protocol_handle *ph)
> > > >         for (clkid = 0; clkid < cinfo->num_clocks; clkid++) {
> > > >                 cinfo->clkds[clkid].id = clkid;
> > > >                 ret = scmi_clock_attributes_get(ph, clkid, cinfo);
> > > > -               if (!ret)
> > > > -                       scmi_clock_describe_rates_get(ph, clkid, cinfo);
> > > > +               if (ret)
> > > > +                       return ret;
> > > 
> > > This change breaks R-Car X5H with SCP FW SDKv4.28.0, as some clocks
> > > do not support the SCMI CLOCK_ATTRIBUTES command.
> > > Before, these clocks were still instantiated, but were further unusable.
> > > After, the whole clock driver fails to initialize, and no SCMI clocks
> > > are available at all.
> > 
> > ...and this is exactly what I feared while doing this sort of hardening :P
> > 
> > So there are a few possible solutions (beside reverting this straight away)
> > 
> > The easy fix would be instead change the above in a
> > 
> > 	if (ret)
> > 		continue;
> > 
> > ...with a bit of annoying accompanying FW_BUG logs, of course, to cause future
> > FW releases to fix this :D
> > 
> > Another option could be leave it as it is, since indeed it is the correct enforced
> > behaviour, being CLOCK_ATTRIBUTES a mandatory command, BUT add on top an ad-hoc SCMI
> > quirk targeting the affected FW releases...
> > 
> > This latter option, though, while enforcing the correct behaviour AND
> > fixing your R-Car issue, leaves open the door for a number of possible
> > failures of other unknowingly buggy Vendors similarly deployed firmwares...
> > 
> > ...that could be solved with more quirks of course...but...worth it ?
> > 
> > Thoughts ?
> > 
> > Let's see also what @Sudeep thinks about this...
> > 
> 
> I prefer to fix it as a quirk to prevent similar issues on newer platforms if
> the firmware baselines are derived from it. In the worst case, we can relax
> the hardening until we figure out a proper quirk-based solution.

Ok, I can post a V3 with a dummy quirk 'template' RFC to be filled by
Geert with proper versioning....so I can check that there are no
surprises round the (quirked) corner...

Thanks,
Cristian

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-12 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-10 18:40 [PATCH v2 00/13] SCMI Clock rates discovery rework Cristian Marussi
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] clk: scmi: Fix clock rate rounding Cristian Marussi
2026-03-11 11:30   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-11 18:33     ` Cristian Marussi
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add clock determine_rate operation Cristian Marussi
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] clk: scmi: Use new determine_rate clock operation Cristian Marussi
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Simplify clock rates exposed interface Cristian Marussi
2026-03-17  7:38   ` Peng Fan
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] clk: scmi: Use new simplified per-clock rate properties Cristian Marussi
2026-03-18 15:29   ` Sudeep Holla
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Drop unused clock rate interfaces Cristian Marussi
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Make clock rates allocation dynamic Cristian Marussi
2026-03-17  7:28   ` Peng Fan
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Harden clock protocol initialization Cristian Marussi
2026-03-11 16:59   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-11 18:45     ` Cristian Marussi
2026-03-12 15:33       ` Sudeep Holla
2026-03-12 16:36         ` Cristian Marussi [this message]
2026-03-16 15:50           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-16 16:14             ` Cristian Marussi
2026-03-16 16:35               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-16 16:38                 ` Cristian Marussi
2026-03-24 13:43                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-03-25 11:02   ` Marek Szyprowski
2026-03-25 12:27     ` Cristian Marussi
2026-03-26  8:55       ` Alexander Stein
2026-03-26 10:16         ` Sudeep Holla
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Harden clock parents discovery Cristian Marussi
2026-03-17  7:29   ` Peng Fan
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Refactor iterators internal allocation Cristian Marussi
2026-03-17  7:35   ` Peng Fan
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Add bound iterators support Cristian Marussi
2026-03-17  7:44   ` Peng Fan
2026-03-17  9:22     ` Cristian Marussi
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Use bound iterators to minimize discovered rates Cristian Marussi
2026-03-10 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] firmware: arm_scmi: Introduce all_rates_get clock operation Cristian Marussi
2026-03-17  7:34   ` Peng Fan
2026-03-17  8:20 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] SCMI Clock rates discovery rework Geert Uytterhoeven

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