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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Markus Probst <markus.probst@posteo.de>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Jiri Slaby" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Kari Argillander" <kari.argillander@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	driver-core@lists.linux.dev, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/4] serdev: add rust private data to serdev_device
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2026 13:24:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abVhlQ91AMViBsPu@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa25ed4ff4688a40bd601d695804def772e47af9.camel@posteo.de>

On Sat, Mar 14, 2026 at 12:08:09PM +0000, Markus Probst wrote:
> On Sat, 2026-03-14 at 12:52 +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2026 at 11:42:02AM +0000, Markus Probst wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2026-03-14 at 09:07 +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 06:12:31PM +0000, Markus Probst wrote:
> > > > > Add rust private data to `struct serdev_device`, as it is required by the
> > > > > rust abstraction added in the following commit
> > > > > (rust: add basic serial device bus abstractions).
> > > > 
> > > > why is rust "special" here?  What's wrong with the existing private
> > > > pointer in this structure?  Why must we add another one?
> > > Because in rust, the device drvdata will be set after probe has run. In
> > > serdev, once the device has been opened, it can receive data. It must
> > > be opened either inside probe or before probe, because it can only be
> > > configured (baudrate, flow control etc.) and data written to after it
> > > has been opened. Because it can receive data before drvdata has been
> > > set yet, we need to ensure it waits on data receival for the probe to
> > > be finished. Otherwise this would be a null pointer dereference. To do
> > > this, we need to store a `Completion` for it to wait and a `bool` in
> > > case the probe exits with an error. We cannot store this data in the
> > > device drvdata, because this is where the drivers drvdata goes. We also
> > > cannot create a wrapper of the drivers drvdata, because
> > > `Device::drvdata::<T>()` would always fail in that case. That is why we
> > > need a "rust_private_data" for this abstraction to store the
> > > `Completion` and `bool`.
> > 
> > So why is this any different from any other bus type?  I don't see the
> > "uniqueness" here that has not required this to happen for PCI or USB or
> > anything else.
> > 
> > What am I missing?
> In Short:
> In serdev, we have to handle incoming device data (serdev calls on a
> function pointer we provide in advance), even in the case that the
> driver hasn't completed probe yet.

Why can the function pointers be called during probe?

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-14 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-13 18:12 [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: add basic serial device bus abstractions Markus Probst
2026-03-13 18:12 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] rust: devres: return reference in `devres::register` Markus Probst
2026-03-13 18:12 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] serdev: add rust private data to serdev_device Markus Probst
2026-03-14  8:07   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-14 11:42     ` Markus Probst
2026-03-14 11:52       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-14 12:08         ` Markus Probst
2026-03-14 13:24           ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2026-03-14 13:31           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-14 13:42             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-14 13:49               ` Markus Probst
2026-03-14 13:54                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-14 14:58                   ` Markus Probst
2026-03-20 16:53             ` Markus Probst
2026-03-20 16:59               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-20 17:13                 ` Markus Probst
2026-03-20 19:59                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-20 21:08                     ` Markus Probst
2026-03-13 18:12 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] rust: add basic serial device bus abstractions Markus Probst
2026-03-13 18:12 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] samples: rust: add Rust serial device bus sample device driver Markus Probst

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