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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org, tools@kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@suse.cz>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	Jake Edge <jake@lwn.net>,
	David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	Askar Safin <safinaskar@zohomail.com>,
	Gabriele Paoloni <gpaoloni@redhat.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Kernel API Specification Framework
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 19:29:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abiSas7bIIXkb4Uj@laps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260316155756.25b985f5@kernel.org>

On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 03:57:56PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>Didn't even think of that. LLMs should make short work of this sort of
>extraction of information from source code..

This is the primary reason that this proposal resurfaced :)

I've originally proposed[1] something like this almost a decade ago, but when I
started trying to write the actual specs I hit a brick wall: it was simply not
tractable.

With LLMs, writing the specs is something we can actually pull off, and we can
verify their correctness so LLMs don't get to hallucinate.

The specs you see in the following patches are all LLM generated.

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

      reply	other threads:[~2026-03-16 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-13 15:09 [PATCH 0/9] Kernel API Specification Framework Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 1/9] kernel/api: introduce kernel API specification framework Sasha Levin
2026-03-17 17:49   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-03-18  6:00     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-03-18 14:53       ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-18 14:30     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-18 16:50       ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-03-18 14:32     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-18 16:51       ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 2/9] kernel/api: enable kerneldoc-based API specifications Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 3/9] kernel/api: add debugfs interface for kernel " Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-13 16:27     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 4/9] tools/kapi: Add kernel API specification extraction tool Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 5/9] kernel/api: add API specification for sys_open Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:33   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-13 16:42     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-17 18:37       ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-03-18 14:12         ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-18 14:16           ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 6/9] kernel/api: add API specification for sys_close Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:49   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-13 16:46     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:52   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-03-13 16:55     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 7/9] kernel/api: add API specification for sys_read Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 8/9] kernel/api: add API specification for sys_write Sasha Levin
2026-03-13 15:09 ` [PATCH 9/9] kernel/api: add runtime verification selftest Sasha Levin
2026-03-14 18:18 ` [PATCH 0/9] Kernel API Specification Framework Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-14 22:44   ` David Laight
2026-03-15  6:46     ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-15  6:36   ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-18  6:24     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-03-18 14:14       ` Sasha Levin
2026-03-16  7:05   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2026-03-16 22:57     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-16 23:29       ` Sasha Levin [this message]

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