From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
Cc: <will@kernel.org>, <robin.murphy@arm.com>, <joro@8bytes.org>,
<bhelgaas@google.com>, <jgg@nvidia.com>, <rafael@kernel.org>,
<lenb@kernel.org>, <praan@google.com>, <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
<xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>, <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>, <vsethi@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Mark ATC invalidate timeouts via lockless bitmap
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 16:23:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <abs0CQCrFlCsV6Ls@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <absfAT4jgL2f3UfR@google.com>
Hi Sami,
On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 10:02:32PM +0000, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 12:15:37PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > @@ -895,9 +898,19 @@ int arm_smmu_cmdq_issue_cmdlist(struct arm_smmu_device *smmu,
> >
> > /* 5. If we are inserting a CMD_SYNC, we must wait for it to complete */
> > if (sync) {
> > + u32 sync_prod;
> > +
> > llq.prod = queue_inc_prod_n(&llq, n);
> > + sync_prod = llq.prod;
> > +
> > ret = arm_smmu_cmdq_poll_until_sync(smmu, cmdq, &llq);
> > - if (ret) {
> > + if (test_and_clear_bit(Q_IDX(&llq, sync_prod),
> > + cmdq->atc_sync_timeouts)) {
>
> This will not be set if a software timeout (1 second) occurs. Do you
> know if the ATC timeout of Arm sMMUv3 is less than the software timeout
> in the driver?
You brought up a good point!
I think ATC timeout follows the PCI Completion Timeout Value in
"Device Control 2 Register", which is typically set [50us, 50ms]
but can be set up to [17s, 64s] according to PCI Base spec.
> If not maybe we can handle the software timeout here also as the cmdlist
> is already known?
I think it's trickier.
If the software times out first at 1s, it means the CMDQ is still
pending on wait for the completion of ATC invalidation. Then, the
caller sees -ETIMEOUT and tries to bisect the ATC batch or update
the STE directly, either of which involves CMDQ. But CMDQ has not
recovered yet.
Then, in case of a batch, all the reties could timeout again. So,
it will fail to identify which device is truly broken. This would
end badly by blindly disabling all the devices in the batch. Also
the disabling calls require CMDQ too, so they might fail as well.
Thus, partially to answer the question, in case software timeout,
I am afraid that we can hardly do anything.. :-/
This means I need to set a different return code for ATC timeouts
v.s. software timeouts.
Also, there is another problem: when PCI CTO finally reaches, the
GERROR ISR will set atc_sync_timeouts but nobody will clear it..
So, before calling arm_smmu_cmdq_issue_cmdlist(), we need to make
sure there is no dirty bit on the bitmap too.
Thanks!
Nicolin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-18 23:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-17 19:15 [PATCH v2 0/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Quarantine device upon ATC invalidation timeout Nicolin Chen
2026-03-17 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] iommu: Do not call pci_dev_reset_iommu_done() unless reset succeeds Nicolin Chen
2026-03-18 7:21 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-03-18 20:16 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-18 8:02 ` Shuai Xue
2026-03-18 20:27 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-17 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] iommu: Add reset_device_done callback for hardware fault recovery Nicolin Chen
2026-03-18 5:59 ` Baolu Lu
2026-03-18 18:42 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-17 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] iommu: Add iommu_report_device_broken() to quarantine a broken device Nicolin Chen
2026-03-18 6:13 ` Baolu Lu
2026-03-19 1:31 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-18 7:31 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-03-19 1:30 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-19 2:35 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-03-19 3:13 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-18 11:45 ` Shuai Xue
2026-03-18 20:29 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-17 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Mark ATC invalidate timeouts via lockless bitmap Nicolin Chen
2026-03-18 7:36 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-03-18 19:26 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-18 22:06 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-19 3:08 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-03-19 3:12 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-23 23:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-18 22:02 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-18 23:23 ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2026-03-19 0:08 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-03-19 1:15 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-23 23:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-24 1:21 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-17 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Replace smmu with master in arm_smmu_inv Nicolin Chen
2026-03-17 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce master->ats_broken flag Nicolin Chen
2026-03-18 7:39 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-03-18 20:00 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-17 19:15 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Block ATS upon an ATC invalidation timeout Nicolin Chen
2026-03-19 2:56 ` Shuai Xue
2026-03-19 3:26 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-19 7:41 ` Shuai Xue
2026-03-18 7:47 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Quarantine device upon " Tian, Kevin
2026-03-18 20:04 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-19 2:29 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-03-19 3:10 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-24 0:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-24 1:30 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-03-25 6:55 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-03-25 14:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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