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From: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
	<dan.j.williams@intel.com>, <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	<ira.weiny@intel.com>, <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	<nik.borisov@suse.com>, <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	<pbonzini@redhat.com>, <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	<rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>, <sagis@google.com>,
	<seanjc@google.com>, <tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com>,
	<vannapurve@google.com>, <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	<yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	<x86@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 17/22] x86/virt/tdx: Avoid updates during update-sensitive operations
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 16:00:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abz+t1E+/chc05Kj@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <abwAmw_JfpWScKGO@thinkstation>

On Thu, Mar 19, 2026 at 02:00:00PM +0000, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 06:58:37AM -0700, Chao Gao wrote:
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/tdx.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/tdx.h
>> index b3a7301e77c6..4c4f7acd4044 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/tdx.h
>> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/tdx.h
>> @@ -26,11 +26,18 @@
>>  #define TDX_SEAMCALL_GP			(TDX_SW_ERROR | X86_TRAP_GP)
>>  #define TDX_SEAMCALL_UD			(TDX_SW_ERROR | X86_TRAP_UD)
>>  
>> +#define TDX_SEAMCALL_STATUS_MASK		0xFFFFFFFF00000000ULL
>> +
>>  /*
>>   * TDX module SEAMCALL leaf function error codes
>>   */
>> -#define TDX_SUCCESS		0ULL
>> -#define TDX_RND_NO_ENTROPY	0x8000020300000000ULL
>> +#define TDX_SUCCESS			0ULL
>> +#define TDX_RND_NO_ENTROPY		0x8000020300000000ULL
>> +#define TDX_UPDATE_COMPAT_SENSITIVE	0x8000051200000000ULL
>
>This competes with other patchset[1].
>
>[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260307010358.819645-1-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com

Got it. But I suppose the conflicts can be addressed when maintainers merge
the two series.

Dave asked me to remove all (false) dependencies to make this series move
reviewable since v3. So I think we don't need to rebase onto that patchset.

>
>> @@ -1189,9 +1192,21 @@ int tdx_module_shutdown(void)
>>  	 * modules as new modules likely have higher handoff version.
>>  	 */
>>  	args.rcx = tdx_sysinfo.handoff.module_hv;
>> -	ret = seamcall_prerr(TDH_SYS_SHUTDOWN, &args);
>> -	if (ret)
>> -		return ret;
>> +
>> +	if (tdx_supports_update_compatibility(&tdx_sysinfo))
>> +		args.rcx |= TDX_SYS_SHUTDOWN_AVOID_COMPAT_SENSITIVE;
>
>Hm. So what happens if the module doesn't support it? We just ignore
>problem?

Yes. The kernel ignores the problem and leaves the decision (whether to
update modules) to userspace.

>
>Maybe we should just block updates on such modules?

Kai made the same suggestion, but Dan rejected it [1][2]. Dan's position is
to avoid kernel complexity and let userspace handle the check, updating at
their own risk.

I've prepared a patch for the userspace tool [3] to check if the feature is
supported and will push it.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/699fe97dc212f_2f4a100b@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch/
[2]: https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/69a0c3d24310_1cc5100d1@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch/
[3]: https://github.com/intel/confidential-computing.tdx.tdx-module.binaries/blob/main/version_select_and_load.py

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-20  8:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-15 13:58 [PATCH v5 00/22] Runtime TDX module update support Chao Gao
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 01/22] x86/virt/tdx: Move low level SEAMCALL helpers out of <asm/tdx.h> Chao Gao
2026-03-16 12:41   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 02/22] coco/tdx-host: Introduce a "tdx_host" device Chao Gao
2026-03-16 12:48   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 03/22] coco/tdx-host: Expose TDX module version Chao Gao
2026-03-16 12:54   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18 21:37   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 04/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Introduce a wrapper for P-SEAMLDR SEAMCALLs Chao Gao
2026-03-16 13:05   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-17  0:43     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-17  9:59       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18  7:13   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-18  9:34     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-19  3:02       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-19  7:14         ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18 21:38   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 05/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Retrieve P-SEAMLDR information Chao Gao
2026-03-16 13:12   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-17  1:05     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-17 10:00       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18  7:53   ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-18  8:57     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18 21:40   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 06/22] coco/tdx-host: Expose P-SEAMLDR information via sysfs Chao Gao
2026-03-17 10:06   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-17 15:34     ` Dave Hansen
2026-03-18  6:54     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18  8:20       ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-03-18  9:10         ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18  9:28           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 07/22] coco/tdx-host: Implement firmware upload sysfs ABI for TDX module updates Chao Gao
2026-03-17 10:20   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18  8:28     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18 21:45   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 08/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Allocate and populate a module update request Chao Gao
2026-03-17 10:59   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18  8:50     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-18 10:58       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-19  7:24         ` Chao Gao
2026-03-19 12:58           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-18 21:36   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 09/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Introduce skeleton for TDX module updates Chao Gao
2026-03-18 22:11   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-19 13:15   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20  8:10     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 10/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Abort updates if errors occurred midway Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:19   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20  8:12     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 11/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Shut down the current TDX module Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:24   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20  8:21     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-23  1:33       ` Chao Gao
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 12/22] x86/virt/tdx: Reset software states during TDX module shutdown Chao Gao
2026-03-16  9:06   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-17  8:27     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-17 11:08       ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 13/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Install a new TDX module Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:32   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-23  2:14     ` Chao Gao
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 14/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Do TDX per-CPU initialization after updates Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:33   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 15/22] x86/virt/tdx: Restore TDX module state Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:37   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 16/22] x86/virt/tdx: Update tdx_sysinfo and check features post-update Chao Gao
2026-03-19 13:43   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 17/22] x86/virt/tdx: Avoid updates during update-sensitive operations Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:00   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20  8:00     ` Chao Gao [this message]
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 18/22] coco/tdx-host: Don't expose P-SEAMLDR features on CPUs with erratum Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:02   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 19/22] x86/virt/tdx: Enable TDX module runtime updates Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:03   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 20/22] coco/tdx-host: Document TDX module update compatibility criteria Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:04   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 21/22] x86/virt/tdx: Document TDX module update Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:05   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v5 22/22] x86/virt/seamldr: Log TDX module update failures Chao Gao
2026-03-19 14:06   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-20  8:31     ` Chao Gao

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