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From: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
To: Xaver Hugl <xaver.hugl@kde.org>
Cc: "Nicolas Frattaroli" <nicolas.frattaroli@collabora.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Harry Wentland" <harry.wentland@amd.com>,
	"Leo Li" <sunpeng.li@amd.com>,
	"Rodrigo Siqueira" <siqueira@igalia.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Daniel Stone" <daniels@collabora.com>,
	"Dmitry Baryshkov" <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, kernel@collabora.com,
	"Derek Foreman" <derek.foreman@collabora.com>,
	"Marius Vlad" <marius.vlad@collabora.com>,
	wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/3] Add "link bpc" DRM property
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2026 15:11:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac0LYoemprz5-dDq@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFZQkGzxfGP4E18owJf5d6L4n25-nvYn0TG=rTLCzjpj1Hk23w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 01:57:08PM +0200, Xaver Hugl wrote:
> Am Do., 19. März 2026 um 13:28 Uhr schrieb Nicolas Frattaroli
> <nicolas.frattaroli@collabora.com>:
> >
> > This series adds a new "link bpc" DRM property. It reflects the display
> > link's actual achieved output bits per component, considering any
> > degradation of the bit depth done by drivers for bandwidth or other
> > reasons. The property's value is updated during an atomic commit, which
> > is also when it fires an uevent if it changed to let userspace know.
> 
> Hi,
> I think it's a really good idea to have a property for knowing the
> actual bpc of the link... however, I do have one big concern with this
> API specifically: It only gives me this information after a modeset.
> 
> With this limitation, I can at most show the user which bpc was chosen
> after the apply display settings and have the end user manually test
> and figure things out, but I cannot show in the UI which bpc will be
> chosen with some configuration before they apply it, and I cannot do
> atomic tests to find a desired tradeoff automatically on the
> compositor side.

I think the idea of some kind of feedback properties in the atomic
commit has come up before, but no one has ever tried to implement them.

> 
> As a side note, for future patches relevant for compositors, please cc
> wayland-devel. It really shouldn't be up to chance whether or not
> compositor developers that would later use the API find out about it
> before it's merged, and keeping track of all of dri-devel is way too
> much to ask from userspace developers.
> 
> - Xaver

-- 
Ville Syrjälä
Intel

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-01 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-19 12:28 [PATCH v5 0/3] Add "link bpc" DRM property Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-19 12:28 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] drm/connector: Add a 'link bpc' property Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-19 12:28 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] drm/connector: hdmi: Add support for " Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-19 12:28 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] drm/amd/display: " Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-20 14:32 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Add "link bpc" DRM property Michel Dänzer
2026-03-20 18:02   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-23 10:55     ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-23 12:05       ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-23 14:38         ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-23 16:55           ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-23 17:27             ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-24 15:25               ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:44                 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-26 12:17                   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-30 16:57                     ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-30 18:52                       ` Harry Wentland
2026-03-31 12:50                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-03-31 17:47                           ` Harry Wentland
2026-04-01  8:40                             ` Daniel Stone
2026-04-01 11:10                               ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-04-01 11:43                                 ` Daniel Stone
2026-04-01 12:46                               ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-04-02 17:06                                 ` Harry Wentland
2026-04-01 13:57                               ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-04-01 14:17                                 ` Daniel Stone
2026-04-02 17:01                               ` Harry Wentland
2026-03-26 13:53                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-03-30 19:01                     ` Harry Wentland
2026-03-31 10:28                       ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-03-31 17:37                         ` Harry Wentland
2026-03-31  8:01                     ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-31 12:38                       ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-03-31 12:56                         ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-31 14:21                           ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-04-01  7:46                             ` Michel Dänzer
     [not found]     ` <CAEsyxyhnALbkaF+9nav8FkW5gcJdtTw5CHhK3Hf8f=fymFiOKw@mail.gmail.com>
2026-03-23 11:44       ` Michel Dänzer
2026-04-01 11:57 ` Xaver Hugl
2026-04-01 12:11   ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2026-04-01 12:25     ` Daniel Stone
2026-04-01 12:56       ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-04-01 12:14   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-04-03 10:23     ` Michel Dänzer

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