From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Americo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>, Kyle McMartin <kyle@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exit: PR_SET_ANCHOR for marking processes as reapers for child processes
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:55:06 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac3eb2511003051055g48adcbf8p3961c45c437b5156@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100305134247.EB5E.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 20:47, KOSAKI Motohiro
<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> On 02/02, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> >
>> > This patch adds a simple flag for each process that marks it as an
>> > "anchor" process for all its children and grandchildren. If a child of
>> > such an anchor dies all its children will not be reparented to init, but
>> > instead to this anchor, escaping this anchor process is not possible. A
>> > task with this flag set hence acts is little "sub-init".
>>
>> Lennart, this patch adds a noticeable linux-only feature. I see
>> your point, but imho your idea needs the "strong" acks. I cc'ed
>> some heavyweights, if someone dislikes your idea he can nack it
>> right now.
>>
>>
>> Security. This is beyond my understanding, hopefully the cc'ed
>> experts can help.
>>
>> Should we clear ->child_anchor flags when the "sub-init" execs? Or,
>> at least, when the task changes its credentials? Probably not, but
>> dunno.
>>
>> The more problematic case is when the descendant of the "sub-init"
>> execs the setuid application. Should we allow the reparenting to
>> !/sbin/init task in this case?
>>
>> Should we clear ->pdeath_signal after reparenting to sub-init ?
>>
>> Do we need the new security_operations->task_reparent() method ?
>> Or, perhaps we can reuse ->task_wait() if we add the "parent"
>> argument?
>>
>> Something else we should think about?
>
> I think changing reparent rule is a bit risky. instead, I propse
> that exporting ANCHOR flag via /proc and ps parse it.
>
> What do you think?
No, that does not help anything, as mentioned earlier. It's not about
making 'ps' look nice, we need the signals if processes die, so we
want to be the parent of the process to keep the usual semantics.
Thanks,
Kay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-05 18:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-02 12:04 [PATCH] exit: PR_SET_ANCHOR for marking processes as reapers for child processes Lennart Poettering
2010-02-03 8:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-03 9:53 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-03 15:31 ` Américo Wang
2010-02-03 17:49 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-02-05 9:54 ` Américo Wang
2010-02-11 10:21 ` Kay Sievers
2010-02-04 15:42 ` Kay Sievers
2010-02-04 20:59 ` Kay Sievers
2010-03-04 14:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-04 22:14 ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-05 18:51 ` Kay Sievers
2010-03-05 19:18 ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-06 0:24 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-09 0:45 ` Ray Lee
2010-03-09 13:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-03-06 0:20 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-08 23:11 ` Roland McGrath
2010-03-05 4:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-05 18:55 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2010-03-06 0:16 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-11 4:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-11 7:56 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-20 14:26 ` Scott James Remnant
2010-12-20 14:51 ` Kay Sievers
2010-12-21 9:56 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-12-21 12:05 ` Scott James Remnant
2010-12-23 15:44 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-12-23 16:00 ` Scott James Remnant
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