From: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
Cc: "Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/12] drm/dep: Add DRM dependency queue layer
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 10:11:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <acF0Tr4Hzev8Paxy@lstrano-desk.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260323110613.6b153163@fedora>
On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 11:06:13AM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 00:58:51 -0700
> Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com> wrote:
>
> > > > It's not the refcount model I'm complaining about, it's the "part of it
> > > > is always freed immediately, part of it is deferred, but not always ..."
> > > > that happens in drm_dep_job_release() I'm questioning. I'd really
> > > > prefer something like:
> > > >
> > >
> > > You are completely missing the point here.
> > >
> >
> > Let me rephrase this — I realize this may come across as rude, which is
> > not my intent.
>
> No offense taken ;-).
>
> > I believe there is simply a disconnect in understanding
> > the constraints.
> >
> > In my example below, the job release completes within bounded time
> > constraints, which makes it suitable for direct release in IRQ context,
> > bypassing the need for a work item that would otherwise incur a costly
> > CPU context switch.
>
> In the other thread, I've explained in more details why I think
> deferred cleanup of jobs is not as bad as you make it sound (context
> switch amortized by the fact it's already there for queue progress
> checking). But let's assume it is, I'd prefer a model where we say
> "ops->job_release() has to be IRQ-safe" and have implementations defer
> their cleanup if they have to, than this mixed approach with a flag. Of
> course, I'd still like to have numbers proving that this job cleanup
> deferral actually makes a difference in practice :P.
Yes, I replied there will either drop this or have solid numbers showing
yes, the CPU utlization shows this is worth while.
Matt
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-23 17:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20260316043255.226352-1-matthew.brost@intel.com>
2026-03-16 4:32 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] workqueue: Add interface to teach lockdep to warn on reclaim violations Matthew Brost
2026-03-25 15:59 ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-26 1:49 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-26 2:19 ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-27 4:33 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-27 17:25 ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-16 4:32 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] drm/dep: Add DRM dependency queue layer Matthew Brost
2026-03-16 9:16 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-17 5:22 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 8:48 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-16 10:25 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-17 5:10 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 12:19 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-18 23:02 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 2:47 ` Daniel Almeida
2026-03-17 5:45 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 7:17 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-17 8:26 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 12:04 ` Daniel Almeida
2026-03-17 19:41 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 17:31 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-23 17:42 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-17 18:14 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 19:48 ` Daniel Almeida
2026-03-17 20:43 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-18 22:40 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-19 9:57 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-22 6:43 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-23 7:58 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-23 10:06 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-23 17:11 ` Matthew Brost [this message]
2026-03-17 12:31 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-17 14:25 ` Daniel Almeida
2026-03-17 14:33 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-18 22:50 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 8:47 ` Christian König
2026-03-17 14:55 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-18 23:28 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-19 9:11 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-23 4:50 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-23 9:55 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-23 17:08 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-23 18:38 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-24 9:23 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-24 16:06 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-25 2:33 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-24 8:49 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-24 16:51 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 16:30 ` Shashank Sharma
2026-03-16 4:32 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] accel/amdxdna: Convert to drm_dep scheduler layer Matthew Brost
2026-03-16 4:32 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] drm/panthor: " Matthew Brost
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