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From: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
Cc: "Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Tvrtko Ursulin" <tvrtko.ursulin@igalia.com>,
	"Rodrigo Vivi" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Philipp Stanner" <phasta@kernel.org>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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	"Daniel Stone" <daniels@collabora.com>,
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	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	shashanks@nvidia.com, jajones@nvidia.com,
	"Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	rust-for-linux <rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/12] drm/dep: Add DRM dependency queue layer
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 10:11:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acF0Tr4Hzev8Paxy@lstrano-desk.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260323110613.6b153163@fedora>

On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 11:06:13AM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 00:58:51 -0700
> Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > It's not the refcount model I'm complaining about, it's the "part of it
> > > > is always freed immediately, part of it is deferred, but not always ..."
> > > > that happens in drm_dep_job_release() I'm questioning. I'd really
> > > > prefer something like:
> > > >   
> > > 
> > > You are completely missing the point here.
> > >   
> > 
> > Let me rephrase this — I realize this may come across as rude, which is
> > not my intent.
> 
> No offense taken ;-).
> 
> > I believe there is simply a disconnect in understanding
> > the constraints.
> > 
> > In my example below, the job release completes within bounded time
> > constraints, which makes it suitable for direct release in IRQ context,
> > bypassing the need for a work item that would otherwise incur a costly
> > CPU context switch.
> 
> In the other thread, I've explained in more details why I think
> deferred cleanup of jobs is not as bad as you make it sound (context
> switch amortized by the fact it's already there for queue progress
> checking). But let's assume it is, I'd prefer a model where we say
> "ops->job_release() has to be IRQ-safe" and have implementations defer
> their cleanup if they have to, than this mixed approach with a flag. Of
> course, I'd still like to have numbers proving that this job cleanup
> deferral actually makes a difference in practice :P.

Yes, I replied there will either drop this or have solid numbers showing
yes, the CPU utlization shows this is worth while.

Matt 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-23 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260316043255.226352-1-matthew.brost@intel.com>
2026-03-16  4:32 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] workqueue: Add interface to teach lockdep to warn on reclaim violations Matthew Brost
2026-03-25 15:59   ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-26  1:49     ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-26  2:19       ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-27  4:33         ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-27 17:25           ` Tejun Heo
2026-03-16  4:32 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] drm/dep: Add DRM dependency queue layer Matthew Brost
2026-03-16  9:16   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-17  5:22     ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17  8:48       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-16 10:25   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-17  5:10     ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 12:19       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-18 23:02         ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17  2:47   ` Daniel Almeida
2026-03-17  5:45     ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17  7:17       ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-17  8:26         ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 12:04           ` Daniel Almeida
2026-03-17 19:41           ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-23 17:31             ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-23 17:42               ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-17 18:14       ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 19:48         ` Daniel Almeida
2026-03-17 20:43         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-18 22:40           ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-19  9:57             ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-22  6:43               ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-23  7:58                 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-23 10:06                   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-23 17:11                     ` Matthew Brost [this message]
2026-03-17 12:31     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-17 14:25       ` Daniel Almeida
2026-03-17 14:33         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-18 22:50           ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17  8:47   ` Christian König
2026-03-17 14:55   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-18 23:28     ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-19  9:11       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-23  4:50         ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-23  9:55           ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-23 17:08             ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-23 18:38               ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-24  9:23                 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-24 16:06                   ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-25  2:33                     ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-24  8:49               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-03-24 16:51                 ` Matthew Brost
2026-03-17 16:30   ` Shashank Sharma
2026-03-16  4:32 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] accel/amdxdna: Convert to drm_dep scheduler layer Matthew Brost
2026-03-16  4:32 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] drm/panthor: " Matthew Brost

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