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From: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
To: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, m.szyprowski@samsung.com, will@kernel.org,
	maz@kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com, jiri@resnulli.us,
	aneesh.kumar@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/5] dma-mapping: Avoid double decrypting with DMA_RESTRICTED_POOL
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2026 12:50:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acvDMPash7-twyxS@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acfded81-f04e-4be0-af98-6ed43b8409ec@arm.com>

On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 12:34:20PM +0100, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
> On 30/03/2026 21:43, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2026 at 12:06:54PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2026 at 02:50:39PM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > > > In case a device have a restricted DMA pool, it will be decrypted
> > > > by default.
> > > > 
> > > > However, in the path of dma_direct_alloc() memory can be allocated
> > > > from this pool using, __dma_direct_alloc_pages() =>
> > > > dma_direct_alloc_swiotlb()
> > > > 
> > > > After that from the same function, it will attempt to decrypt it
> > > > using dma_set_decrypted() if force_dma_unencrypted().
> > > > 
> > > > Which results in the memory being decrypted twice.
> > > > 
> > > > It's not clear how the does realm world/hypervisors deal with that,
> > > > for example:
> > > > - CCA: Clear a bit in the page table and call realm IPA_STATE_SET.
> > > > - TDX: Issue a hypercall.
> > > > - pKVM: Which doesn't implement force_dma_unencrypted() at the moment,
> > > >    uses a share hypercall.
> > > > 
> > > > Change that to only encrypt/decrypt memory that are not allocated
> > > > from the restricted dma pools.
> > > > 
> > > > Fixes: f4111e39a52a ("swiotlb: Add restricted DMA alloc/free support")
> > > > Signed-off-by: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >   kernel/dma/direct.c | 4 ++--
> > > >   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/dma/direct.c b/kernel/dma/direct.c
> > > > index 8f43a930716d..27d804f0473f 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/dma/direct.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/dma/direct.c
> > > > @@ -79,7 +79,7 @@ bool dma_coherent_ok(struct device *dev, phys_addr_t phys, size_t size)
> > > >   static int dma_set_decrypted(struct device *dev, void *vaddr, size_t size)
> > > >   {
> > > > -	if (!force_dma_unencrypted(dev))
> > > > +	if (!force_dma_unencrypted(dev) || is_swiotlb_for_alloc(dev))
> > > >   		return 0;
> > > 
> > > This seems really obtuse, I would expect the decryption state of the
> > > memory to be known by the caller. If dma_direct_alloc_swiotlb() can
> > > return decrypted or encrypted memory it needs to return a flag saying
> > > that. It shouldn't be deduced by checking dev flags in random places
> > > like this.
> > 
> > At the moment restricted dma is always decrypted, also it’s per device
> > so we don’t have to check this per allocation.
> 
> Doesn't the initial state depend on platform ? For CCA, the Realm must
> decide how it wants to use a given region, which for the restricted DMA
> pool, it can be made decrypted. Could the VM OS decide to make this
> decrypted at boot ?
> 

At the moment no [1], the pool is decrypted unconditionally.
As mentioned in the cover letter under "Future work", I believe
giving the OS the ability to have undecrypted pools is important for
confidential DMA.

Initially, I thought that can be a per device property (so the
platform will keep the memory encrypted for physical devices and
decrypt it for emulated ones).

But, that might cause runtime issues as a pool can be shared between
multiple devices. So, I beleive it's better to have this as per-pool
property(from device-tree for ex) and then the platform can do any
validation of assumptions it needs in the runtime.

This is a bit hairy, as I mentioned it would be a good topic to
discuss in the next LPC.

Thanks,
Mostafa


[1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/kernel/dma/swiotlb.c#n1847

> Suzuki
> 
> 
> > I can change the signature for __dma_direct_alloc_pages() to make it
> > return an extra flag but that feels more complicated as it changes
> > dma_direct_alloc_swiotlb() , swiotlb_alloc() with its callers.
> > 
> > I can investigate this approach further.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Mostafa
> > 
> > > 
> > > Double decryption is certainly a bug, I do not expect that to work.
> > > 
> > > Jason
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-31 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-30 14:50 [RFC PATCH v2 0/5] dma-mapping: Fixes for memory encryption Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-30 14:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/5] dma-mapping: Avoid double decrypting with DMA_RESTRICTED_POOL Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-30 15:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-30 20:43     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-31 11:34       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-03-31 12:50         ` Mostafa Saleh [this message]
2026-03-30 14:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/5] dma-mapping: Use the correct phys_to_dma() for DMA_RESTRICTED_POOL Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-30 15:09   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-30 20:47     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-30 22:28       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-30 14:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/5] dma-mapping: Decrypt memory on remap Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-30 15:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-30 20:49     ` Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-30 22:30       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-30 14:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/5] dma-mapping: Refactor memory encryption usage Mostafa Saleh
2026-03-30 15:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-30 14:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/5] dma-mapping: Add doc for memory encryption Mostafa Saleh

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