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From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, oss@malat.biz, paulmck@kernel.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org,  kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] bootconfig: Apply early options from embedded config
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2026 08:27:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acvjcCqIAeHyIiQN@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260331125827.157a833882830007ea9b0b31@kernel.org>

hello Masami,

On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 12:58:27PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:

> > 3) Ensure that early bootconfig parameters don't overwrite the boot command
> >    line. For example, if the boot command line has foo=bar and bootconfig
> >    later has foo=baz, the command line value should take precedence.
> >    This prevents early boot code (in setup_arch()) from seeing a parameter
> >    value that will be changed later.
>
> OK, this also needs to be considered. Currently we just pass the bootconfig
> parameters right before bootloader given parameters as "extra_command_line"
> if "bootconfig" in cmdline or CONFIG_BOOT_CONFIG_FORCE=y.
>
> [boot_config(.kernel)]<command_line>[ -- [boot_config(.init)][init_command_line]]
>
> This is currently expected behavior. The bootconfig parameters are
> expected to be overridden by command_line or command_line are appended.

That's correct, and I have no intention of changing this behavior. Here's
the current approach:

1) Early parameters from the bootloader are parsed first in setup_arch()

2) Subsequently, bootconfig_apply_early_params() is invoked. Any early
   parameter that was already parsed from the bootloader (in setup_arch())
   will be skipped at this stage.

> If we change this for early params, we also should change the expected
> output of /proc/cmdline too. I think we have 2 options;
>
>  - As before, we expect the parameters provided by the boot configuration
>    to be processed first and then overridden later by the command line.
>
> Or,
>
>  - ignore all parameters which is given from the command line, this also
>    updates existing setup_boot_config() (means xbc_snprint_cmdline() ).
>
> Anyway, this behavior change will also be a bit critical... We have
> to announce it.

As mentioned above, I don't anticipate any changes to existing behavior.
Bootconfig parsing remains unchanged. The only modification is that
bootconfig_apply_early_params() will skip any early config parameter
that's already present in the bootloader command line.

> > +Note that embedded bootconfig is parsed after ``setup_arch()``, so
> > +early options that are consumed during architecture initialization
> > +(e.g., ``mem=``, ``memmap=``, ``earlycon``, ``noapic``, ``nolapic``,
> > +``acpi=``, ``numa=``, ``iommu=``) may not take effect from bootconfig.
> > +
>
> This is easy to explain, but it's quite troublesome for users to
> determine which parameters are unavailable.

Agreed. This turned out to be significantly more complex than I
initially anticipated.

I'm uncertain whether we can accomplish this without examining every
early_parameter() implementation in depth.

> Currently we can identify
> it by `git grep early_param -- arch/${ARCH}`. But it is setup in
> setup_arch() we need to track the source code. (Or ask AI :))

The challenge extends beyond that. There are numerous early_parameter()
definitions scattered throughout the kernel that may or may not be
utilized by setup_arch().

For example, consider `early_param("mitigations", ..)` in
./kernel/cpu.c. This modifies the cpu_mitigations global variable, which
is referenced in various locations across different architectures.

It's worth noting that we have over 300 early_parameter() instances in
the kernel.

Given this, analyzing all these early parameters and examining each one
individually represents a substantial amount of work.

Are there alternative approaches? At this point, I'm leaning toward
breaking bootconfig's dependency on memblock, allowing us to invoke it
before setup_arch(). Is this the only practical solution available?!

Thanks,
--breno

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-31 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-25 10:05 [PATCH v2] bootconfig: Apply early options from embedded config Breno Leitao
2026-03-25 14:22 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-03-26 14:30   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-03-27 10:18     ` Breno Leitao
2026-03-27 14:16       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-03-27 16:11         ` Breno Leitao
2026-03-27 10:06   ` Breno Leitao
2026-03-27 13:37     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-03-30 13:15       ` Breno Leitao
2026-03-30 15:04         ` Breno Leitao
2026-03-31  3:58           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-03-31 15:27             ` Breno Leitao [this message]
2026-04-01 13:48               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-04-01 15:01                 ` Breno Leitao
2026-04-03  2:45                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-03-31  0:00         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-03-31 10:18   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-04-01  1:02     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-04-01  9:40       ` Kiryl Shutsemau

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