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From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	xu.xin16@zte.com.cn, david@kernel.org,  chengming.zhou@linux.dev,
	wang.yaxin@zte.com.cn, yang.yang29@zte.com.cn,
	 Michel Lespinasse <michel@lespinasse.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] ksm: Optimize rmap_walk_ksm by passing a suitable address range
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 10:43:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adTRPwNMzogT1OYO@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260405140132.3a518740c6c1d68843f44aaf@linux-foundation.org>

On Sun, Apr 05, 2026 at 02:01:32PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Apr 2026 21:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com> wrote:
>
> > This is a very attractive speedup, but I believe it's flawed: in the
> > special case when a range has been mremap-moved, when its anon folio
> > indexes and anon_vma pgoff correspond to the original user address,
> > not to the current user address.
> >
> > In which case, rmap_walk_ksm() will be unable to find all the PTEs
> > for that KSM folio, which will consequently be pinned in memory -
> > unable to be reclaimed, unable to be migrated, unable to be hotremoved,
> > until it's finally unmapped or KSM disabled.
> >
> > But it's years since I worked on KSM or on anon_vma, so I may be confused
> > and my belief wrong.  I have tried to test it, and my testcase did appear
> > to show 7.0-rc6 successfully swapping out even mremap-moved KSM folios,
> > but mm.git failing to do so.  However, I say "appear to show" because I
> > found swapping out any KSM pages harder than I'd been expecting: so have
> > some doubts about my testing.  Let me give more detail on that at the
> > bottom of this mail: it's a tangent which had better not distract from
> > your speedup.
> >
> > If I'm right that your patch is flawed, what to do?
>
> Thanks, Hugh.   Administreevia:
>
> I've removed this patch from the mm-stable branch and I reworked its
> [1/2] "ksm: initialize the addr only once in rmap_walk_ksm" to be
> presented as a singleton patch.
>
> For now I've restaged this patch ("ksm: optimize rmap_walk_ksm by
> passing a suitable address range") at the tail of the mm-unstable
> branch and I'll enter wait-and-see mode.
>

Given we're at -rc7 now, I think we should delay this patch until 7.2, unless
I'm much mistaken wrt Hugh's concerns.

I'm concerned this is a subtle way of breaking things so we really want to be
confident.

We should also bundle up the test at
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260407140805858ViqJKFhfmYSfq0FynsaEY@zte.com.cn/
with this patch (should we find it's ok) as a separate series.

Really overall I think safest to yank until 7.2 honestly.

Thanks, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-07  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-12 11:28 [PATCH v3 0/2] KSM: Optimizations for rmap_walk_ksm xu.xin16
2026-02-12 11:29 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] ksm: Initialize the addr only once in rmap_walk_ksm xu.xin16
2026-02-12 11:30 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] ksm: Optimize rmap_walk_ksm by passing a suitable address range xu.xin16
2026-02-12 12:21   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-05  4:44   ` Hugh Dickins
2026-04-05 21:01     ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-07  9:43       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle) [this message]
2026-04-06  1:58     ` xu.xin16
2026-04-06  5:35       ` Hugh Dickins
2026-04-07  6:21         ` xu.xin16
2026-04-07  9:36           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)
2026-04-06  9:21     ` David Hildenbrand (arm)
2026-04-06  9:23       ` David Hildenbrand (arm)
2026-04-07  9:39     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)

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