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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
Cc: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Dylan Hatch <dylanbhatch@google.com>,
	jpoimboe@kernel.org, jikos@kernel.org, mbenes@suse.cz,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, kpsingh@kernel.org,
	mattbobrowski@google.com, jolsa@kernel.org, ast@kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org, martin.lau@linux.dev,
	eddyz87@gmail.com, memxor@gmail.com, yonghong.song@linux.dev,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] livepatch: Add "replaceable" attribute to klp_patch
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2026 13:10:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adY3vej2kt5joAg4@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPhsuW7JhtbniZHFWGMrzeqdS=-EjCySFPgiOBv0zKJNRwzONA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 2026-04-07 16:09:39, Song Liu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2026 at 8:08 AM Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
> [...]
> > > + * @replace:   replace tag:
> > > + *             = 0: Atomic replace is disabled; however, this patch remains
> > > + *                  eligible to be superseded by others.
> >
> > This is weird semantic. Which livepatch tag would be allowed to
> > supersede it, please?
> >
> > Do we still need this category?
> >
> > > + *             > 0: Atomic replace is enabled. Only existing patches with a
> > > + *                  matching replace tag will be superseded.
> > >   * @list:      list node for global list of actively used patches
> > >   * @kobj:      kobject for sysfs resources
> > >   * @obj_list:  dynamic list of the object entries
> > > @@ -137,7 +141,7 @@ struct klp_patch {
> > >         struct module *mod;
> > >         struct klp_object *objs;
> > >         struct klp_state *states;
> > > -       bool replace;
> > > +       unsigned int replace;
> >
> > This already breaks the backward compatibility by changing the type
> > and semantic of this field.
> 
> I was thinking if replace=0 means no replace, it is still backward
> compatible. Did I miss something?

IMHO, the semantic of the no-replace mode would be strange if
we introduce the hybrid mode. Especially, it would be strange when
it can be replaced by any livepatch with random replace tag/set.
Also it would just complicate the definition and detection of conflicts.

I am going to provide more details in the reply to Yafang.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-08 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-02  9:26 [RFC PATCH 0/4] trace, livepatch: Allow kprobe return overriding for livepatched functions Yafang Shao
2026-04-02  9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] trace: Simplify kprobe overridable function check Yafang Shao
2026-04-02 13:13   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2026-04-02  9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] trace: Allow kprobes to override livepatched functions Yafang Shao
2026-04-02 12:48   ` Menglong Dong
2026-04-02 13:20     ` Yafang Shao
2026-04-03 10:25       ` Menglong Dong
2026-04-03 11:30         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-04-03 13:30           ` Yafang Shao
2026-04-03 14:26             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-03 16:00               ` Yafang Shao
2026-04-03 13:26         ` Yafang Shao
2026-04-09  9:47   ` Miroslav Benes
2026-04-02  9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] livepatch: Add "replaceable" attribute to klp_patch Yafang Shao
2026-04-03 16:19   ` Song Liu
2026-04-03 20:55     ` Dylan Hatch
2026-04-03 21:35       ` Song Liu
2026-04-06 11:08         ` Yafang Shao
2026-04-06 18:11           ` Song Liu
2026-04-06 21:12             ` Joe Lawrence
2026-04-07  2:54               ` Song Liu
2026-04-07  3:16                 ` Yafang Shao
2026-04-07  9:45                   ` Yafang Shao
2026-04-07 15:08                     ` Petr Mladek
2026-04-07 23:09                       ` Song Liu
2026-04-08 11:10                         ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2026-04-08  2:40                       ` Yafang Shao
2026-04-08 11:43                         ` Petr Mladek
2026-04-08 18:19                           ` Song Liu
2026-04-09  7:36                             ` Petr Mladek
2026-04-07 13:52           ` Petr Mladek
2026-04-02  9:26 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] livepatch: Implement livepatch hybrid mode Yafang Shao
2026-04-03 16:06 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] trace, livepatch: Allow kprobe return overriding for livepatched functions Song Liu
2026-04-06 10:55   ` Yafang Shao
2026-04-06 18:26     ` Song Liu
2026-04-07  2:21       ` Yafang Shao
2026-04-07  2:46         ` Song Liu
2026-04-07  3:13           ` Yafang Shao
2026-04-08  6:51             ` Song Liu
2026-04-09 10:08             ` Miroslav Benes
2026-04-06  5:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-06 10:57   ` Yafang Shao

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