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From: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
To: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: kasong@tencent.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	 Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	 Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	 Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	 David Stevens <stevensd@google.com>,
	Leno Hou <lenohou@gmail.com>, Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Zicheng Wang <wangzicheng@honor.com>,
	 Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	 Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/14] mm/mglru: restructure the reclaim loop
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2026 16:43:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adYP81AhpNf0znp3@KASONG-MC4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <997d5991-6935-49ac-8aa7-569767c4693b@huaweicloud.com>

On Wed, Apr 08, 2026 at 04:08:05PM +0800, Chen Ridong wrote:
> On 2026/4/7 19:57, Kairui Song via B4 Relay wrote:
> > +/*
> > + * For future optimizations:
> > + * 1. Defer try_to_inc_max_seq() to workqueues to reduce latency for memcg
> > + *    reclaim.
> > + */
> >  static bool try_to_shrink_lruvec(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct scan_control *sc)
> >  {
> > +	bool need_rotate = false;
> >  	long nr_batch, nr_to_scan;
> > -	unsigned long scanned = 0;
> >  	int swappiness = get_swappiness(lruvec, sc);
> > +	struct mem_cgroup *memcg = lruvec_memcg(lruvec);
> > +
> > +	nr_to_scan = get_nr_to_scan(lruvec, sc, memcg, swappiness);
> > +	if (!nr_to_scan)
> > +		need_rotate = true;
> >  
> 
> Will it be simpler if we return directly here?
> 
> 	if (!nr_to_scan)
> 		return ture;

Looks good to me, I used `need_rotate = true` here since it kind of explains
what is happening better.

> 
> I wonder if moving the aging check under `while (nr_to_scan > 0)` can change
> behavior when the scan budget gets shifted down to 0.
> 
> In the old code, once `should_run_aging()` became true, reclaim could still go
> through `try_to_inc_max_seq()` instead of being gated by the priority-shifted
> scan budget. With this change, a small lruvec can skip the loop entirely, so a
> lruvec that needs aging to make reclaim progress would neither scan nor age in
> that reclaim round.
> 
> Does this have any observable impact on reclaim progress or reclaim balance,
> e.g. by deferring aging until a later retry / higher priority and pushing more
> pressure onto other memcgs?

We also skip aging unconditionally at DEF_PRIORITY, both before and after
this patch. Scan budget can only be shifted to 0 when the memcg is smaller
than 8M. Seems trivial to me, maybe I can just restore below code in V3:

if (!nr_to_scan)
	nr_to_scan = min(evictable, SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX);

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20260403-mglru-reclaim-v3-4-a285efd6ff91@tencent.com/

Was a bit worried that tiny cgroups could get over reclaimed, so maybe:

if (!nr_to_scan && sc->priority < DEF_PRIORITY)
	nr_to_scan = min(evictable, SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX);

I tested the reclaim balancing issue using selftests/cgroup/test_memcontrol,
all looks good with whichever design as the cgroups there are >16M hence not
effected.

I think we might be over thinking about this :)

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-08  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-07 11:57 [PATCH v4 00/14] mm/mglru: improve reclaim loop and dirty folio handling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] mm/mglru: consolidate common code for retrieving evictable size Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] mm/mglru: rename variables related to aging and rotation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] mm/mglru: relocate the LRU scan batch limit to callers Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-08  3:12   ` Chen Ridong
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] mm/mglru: restructure the reclaim loop Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-08  8:08   ` Chen Ridong
2026-04-08  8:43     ` Kairui Song [this message]
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] mm/mglru: scan and count the exact number of folios Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-08  8:27   ` Chen Ridong
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] mm/mglru: use a smaller batch for reclaim Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] mm/mglru: don't abort scan immediately right after aging Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-08  9:32   ` Chen Ridong
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] mm/mglru: remove redundant swap constrained check upon isolation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] mm/mglru: use the common routine for dirty/writeback reactivation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] mm/mglru: simplify and improve dirty writeback handling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] mm/mglru: remove no longer used reclaim argument for folio protection Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] mm/vmscan: remove sc->file_taken Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] mm/vmscan: remove sc->unqueued_dirty Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-07 11:57 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] mm/vmscan: unify writeback reclaim statistic and throttling Kairui Song via B4 Relay

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