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From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Kuba Piecuch <jpiecuch@google.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
	Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
	Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH sched_ext/for-7.1] sched_ext: Documentation: Add missing calls to quiescent(), runnable()
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2026 15:49:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adZc8caEfOZw8TLE@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DHNS3RWRB1C5.29B8SXO481CHK@google.com>

On Wed, Apr 08, 2026 at 12:40:09PM +0000, Kuba Piecuch wrote:
> Hi Andrea,
> 
> On Wed Apr 8, 2026 at 11:28 AM UTC, Andrea Righi wrote:
> ...
> >
> > Looks good, but I noticed another issue, should we also change the condition up
> > above as following?
> >
> >  Documentation/scheduler/sched-ext.rst | 2 +-
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-ext.rst b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-ext.rst
> > index 29d36e248f58b..99df4cc982375 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/scheduler/sched-ext.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/scheduler/sched-ext.rst
> > @@ -423,7 +423,7 @@ by a sched_ext scheduler:
> >          ops.runnable();         /* Task becomes ready to run */
> >  
> >          while (task_is_runnable(task)) {
> > -            if (task is not in a DSQ && task->scx.slice == 0) {
> > +            if (task is not in a DSQ || task->scx.slice == 0) {
> >                  ops.enqueue();  /* Task can be added to a DSQ */
> >  
> >                  /* Task property change (i.e., affinity, nice, etc.)? */
> >
> > Because we trigger ops.enqueue() when the task expired its time slice or it
> > becomes runnable and has not been added to a DSQ.
> >
> > This also represents correctly the sched_change() scenario: a task being
> > re-enqueued after sched_change() still has its time slice > 0, but we need to
> > call ops.enqueue() for it.
> 
> I agree that the condition should be changed, but I'm not sure that this is
> what it should look like.
> 
> Is the "task is not in a DSQ" part of the condition there to handle direct
> dispatch? Apart from direct dispatch from ops.select_cpu(), I wasn't able to
> come up with a situation where we would reach this condition with the task
> present on some DSQ.

The intent is to represent the direct dispatch from ops.select_cpu(), since in
that case ops.enqueue() is skipped.

Honestly I think if we change the && to || in that condition, everything should
be pretty accurate.

> 
> A more general comment about the pseudocode: I think it can be useful to
> introduce someone new to the general flow of the callbacks in sched_ext,
> but the documentation should be clear that this is a simplified view that
> makes assumptions about the behavior of the BPF scheduler itself (flags like
> SCX_OPS_ENQ_LAST, whether the scheduler uses direct dispatch), as well as
> the overall system (Can sched_ext be preempted by a higher-priority sched
> class? Can scheduling properties of a task be changed while it's running?)
> Without stating these assumptions clearly, we risk leaving the reader falsely
> believing they have a complete understanding.

Of course this schema is not a complete representation of the entire sched_ext
state machine, if we put everything it'd become too big and complex. I think we
should just cover the most common use cases here. Maybe we can clarify this in
the description before this diagram.

Thanks,
-Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-08 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-06 11:47 [PATCH sched_ext/for-7.1] sched_ext: Documentation: Add ops.dequeue() to task lifecycle Andrea Righi
2026-04-06 14:49 ` Emil Tsalapatis
2026-04-06 19:08   ` Andrea Righi
2026-04-06 18:09 ` Tejun Heo
2026-04-07  9:54 ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-04-07 16:31   ` Andrea Righi
2026-04-08  9:18     ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-7.1] sched_ext: Documentation: Add missing calls to quiescent(), runnable() Kuba Piecuch
2026-04-08 11:28       ` Andrea Righi
2026-04-08 12:40         ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-04-08 13:49           ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2026-04-08 14:17             ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-04-08 14:54               ` Andrea Righi

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