From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development!
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:45:50 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ada8xfks90x.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070130012904.GA9617@kroah.com> (Greg KH's message of "Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:29:04 -0800")
> All that is needed is some kind of specification that describes how your
> device works, or the email address of an engineer that is willing to
> answer questions every once in a while. A few sample devices might be
> good to have so that debugging doesn't have to be done by email, but if
> necessary, that can be done.
> This driver will work with all[1] of the different
> CPU types supported by Linux, the largest number of CPU types supported
> by any operating system ever before in the history of computing.
> As for support, the driver will be supported through email by the
> original developers, when they can help out, and by the "enterprise"
> Linux distributors as part of their service agreements with their
> customers.
I'm all for openness of device programming specs, but I think it's a
bit disingenous to suggest that all a company has to do to get a
driver written and supported is throw some documentation over the
wall. And it's crazy to suggest that the driver will work on every
platform and be supported by enterprise distros.
Just look at the in-tree drivers: there are tons of them that don't
work on big-endian platforms, or have 64-bit problems, or have no SMP
support. And that doesn't even count drivers that are so bitrotted
they won't even build any more. And there are plenty of documented
devices that no one cares enough about to submit a driver for.
In the real world, a vendor that wants to make sure a device is
supported by Linux had better pay someone to write the driver and keep
it working. Of course, if the device is popular enough or simple
enough, docs are all that's needed, but in many cases no one competent
to write the driver is going to volunteer to do it.
- R.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-30 17:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-30 1:29 Free Linux Driver Development! Greg KH
2007-01-30 2:19 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-30 2:23 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 7:33 ` Bauke Jan Douma
2007-01-30 19:15 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-30 10:52 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-30 19:14 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-30 19:46 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:23 ` Diego Calleja
2007-01-30 20:39 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:13 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-01-31 21:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-01-31 22:04 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-01-30 13:45 ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-30 19:12 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:40 ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-30 19:47 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 17:30 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 19:11 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 22:21 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 19:33 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-01-30 19:55 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 17:45 ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2007-01-30 17:55 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 18:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 18:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2007-01-30 19:02 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 19:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 19:10 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:29 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 19:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 21:38 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 21:47 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 22:00 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:19 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:39 ` John W. Linville
2007-01-30 22:23 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 13:59 ` Erik Mouw
2007-02-01 14:45 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 22:39 ` Erik Mouw
2007-02-01 15:46 ` Michael Buesch
2007-02-01 16:42 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 17:48 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-01-30 22:14 ` Dave Airlie
2007-01-30 22:24 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-30 22:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 13:34 ` David Hollis
2007-01-31 17:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 18:37 ` Bob Copeland
2007-02-01 5:52 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 20:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-01-31 17:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 17:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 17:58 ` alan
2007-01-31 18:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 19:17 ` alan
2007-01-30 22:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:15 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 23:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:19 ` Matthieu CASTET
2007-01-30 22:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 4:02 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-01-31 12:49 ` Alan
2007-01-31 18:37 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-01-30 23:03 ` Alan
2007-01-31 17:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-01-31 17:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 17:09 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-02-07 14:03 ` Tejun Heo
2007-02-07 18:40 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 17:28 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:54 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 21:46 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:27 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-01-30 22:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:50 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 23:05 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 23:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 23:29 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 23:45 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-31 0:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 0:46 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 1:07 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-31 1:30 ` Greg KH
2007-02-07 10:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2007-01-30 22:43 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:52 ` Diego Calleja
2007-01-30 20:11 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 1:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 1:19 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 2:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 1:24 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 2:11 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-01-31 2:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-02-05 9:49 ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-02-06 13:37 ` Sunil Naidu
2007-02-06 14:57 ` Dave Jones
2007-02-06 16:30 ` Gene Heskett
2007-02-06 16:36 ` Gene Heskett
2007-02-06 21:14 ` Akemi Yagi
2007-02-06 22:15 ` floppy (Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, OT) Oleg Verych
2007-02-07 13:33 ` Free Linux Driver Development! Sunil Naidu
2007-02-07 13:50 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-08 0:43 ` David Lang
2007-02-06 15:12 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-06 16:11 ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-01-31 10:08 ` Rewriting floppy.c was " Andi Kleen
2007-01-31 9:20 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-01-31 9:32 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 9:34 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-01-31 16:18 ` Martin Seidl
2007-01-31 17:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 18:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 18:58 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-01-31 19:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:46 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-02-01 13:12 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-02-01 13:22 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-02-01 17:13 ` Al Viro
2007-01-31 17:41 ` Sergei Organov
2007-02-01 5:46 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 14:22 ` Sergei Organov
2007-02-01 14:41 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:08 ` Dmitri Vorobiev
2007-01-30 19:49 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:15 ` Andrew Lyon
2007-01-30 20:30 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 13:29 ` Christer Weinigel
2007-02-04 18:19 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 21:33 ` Christer Weinigel
2007-01-31 2:27 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-01-31 6:26 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 6:48 ` Kumar Gala
2007-01-31 20:01 ` Michael K. Edwards
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2007-02-04 18:20 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 19:08 ` Miguel Ojeda
2007-02-05 8:13 ` Greg KH
2007-02-05 15:24 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-02-06 6:42 ` Greg KH
2007-02-06 13:35 ` Sunil Naidu
2007-02-06 17:01 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 18:59 ` Pierre Ossman
2007-02-06 6:44 ` Greg KH
2007-02-06 8:29 ` Manu Abraham
2007-02-06 18:21 ` Greg KH
2007-02-07 7:12 ` Miguel Ojeda
2007-02-07 18:42 ` Greg KH
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2007-01-30 23:35 ` Robert Hancock
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-31 13:06 Nicolas Mailhot
2007-01-31 19:29 ` Francois Romieu
2007-01-31 19:54 ` Auke Kok
2007-01-31 21:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:48 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 20:09 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-01-31 20:12 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 21:15 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 5:50 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 22:06 ` Dave Jones
2007-01-31 22:08 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-31 23:00 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-31 23:04 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-02-01 1:08 ` Mark Lord
2007-02-01 1:39 ` Lee Revell
2007-02-01 10:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 23:44 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 0:07 ` Trent Waddington
2007-02-01 1:58 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 8:40 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 9:03 ` Trent Waddington
2007-02-01 9:22 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 9:34 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 23:59 ` Lee Revell
2007-02-01 11:43 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-02-14 12:00 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-02 4:54 Christoph Bartelmus
2007-02-04 6:26 Larry Finger
2007-02-04 10:36 ` Michael Buesch
2007-02-04 21:37 devzero
2007-02-04 23:04 ` Oleg Verych
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