From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>
Cc: Hitoshi Mitake <h.mitake@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:12:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <adaab6c1h7c.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0904191543530.11789@localhost.localdomain> (Robert P. J. Day's message of "Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:45:02 -0400 (EDT)")
> from arch/x86/Kconfig:
> ...
> select HAVE_READQ
> select HAVE_WRITEQ
> ...
>
> yet there are no such defined Kconfig vars anywhere. thoughts?
git blame shows that this came in from 2c5643b1 ("x86: provide
readq()/writeq() on 32-bit too"). And that commit looks very dubious
indeed to me -- it defines readq() and writeq() in a way that is not
atomic and probably won't generate single 64-bit bus cycles.
Now, many drivers do "#ifndef readq <define my own implementation> #endif"
but exactly what is required is very hardware-dependent, and accessing
32-bit halves in the wrong order may lead to very subtle bugs. For
example, the changelog for e23a59e1 ("niu: Fix readq implementation when
architecture does not provide one.") says:
In particular one of the issues is whether the top 32-bits
or the bottom 32-bits of the 64-bit register should be read
first. There could be side effects, and in fact that is
exactly the problem here.
By coincidence, the 32-bit x86 implementation is actually OK for niu,
but I didn't audit every similar driver, and I don't think any
implementation of readq()/writeq() that generates multiple bus cycles is
suitable in general -- it doesn't meet the requirements of the API.
So I would strongly suggest reverting 2c5643b1 since as far as I can
tell it just sets a trap for subtle bugs that only show up on 32-bit
x86 -- any portable driver still needs to provide readq()/writeq() for
other 32-bit architectures, so it doesn't really help anyone.
- R.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-19 21:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-19 19:45 arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars Robert P. J. Day
2009-04-19 21:12 ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2009-04-19 21:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-19 22:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-19 22:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20 0:56 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20 2:08 ` Robert Hancock
2009-04-20 0:53 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20 1:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-20 10:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20 14:47 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-20 16:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 8:33 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21 8:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 8:57 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21 15:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:07 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 17:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:23 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 19:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 21:11 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-22 0:31 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 19:05 ` [PATCH] x86: Remove readq()/writeq() on 32-bit Roland Dreier
2009-04-29 5:12 ` David Miller
2009-04-29 11:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 12:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:25 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-29 19:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 5:32 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 23:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 0:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-14 7:19 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-15 23:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-17 7:12 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-17 8:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-21 11:35 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-21 11:49 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 21:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:06 ` Roland Dreier
2009-05-13 22:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:21 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-22 0:27 ` arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars David Miller
2009-04-22 0:25 ` David Miller
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