From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development!
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:50:49 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <adaac00p1rq.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45BFC7F2.7090209@garzik.org> (Jeff Garzik's message of "Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:34:26 -0500")
> Which of these actively maintained and supported drivers work on only
> one platform[1], and are excluded from enterprise distros? Can we
> truly count them as "many", as you repeatedly claim?
Why do we restrict this to actively maintained and supported drivers
(I think abandonware drivers are highly relevant here...)? And why
are you asking about drivers that work on only one platform? Greg
promised support for every platform that has the right bus to plug a
device into. So things like drivers that don't work on SMP or 64-bit
or big-endian platforms also violate that pledge, even if there's more
than one 32-bit little-endian uniprocessor platform where the driver
does work.
Anyway, grepping for stuff like BROKEN or !64BIT or X86 in the Kconfig
dependencies under drivers/ finds tons of hits. I don't have time to
scan through and figure out which meet your criteria, and I honestly
don't know how enterprise distros decide what to support. For example
RHEL4 seems to ship aha152x (which depends on ISA && SCSI && !64BIT),
but what will RH do if someone actually wants support for it?
I don't really understand why it's so hard to accept that sometimes
even open specs aren't enough to get great Linux support.
- R.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-30 22:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-30 1:29 Free Linux Driver Development! Greg KH
2007-01-30 2:19 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-30 2:23 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 7:33 ` Bauke Jan Douma
2007-01-30 19:15 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-01-30 10:52 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-30 19:14 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-30 19:46 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:23 ` Diego Calleja
2007-01-30 20:39 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:13 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-01-31 21:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-01-31 22:04 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-01-30 13:45 ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-30 19:12 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:40 ` Florian Weimer
2007-01-30 19:47 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 17:30 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 19:11 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 22:21 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 19:33 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-01-30 19:55 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 17:45 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 17:55 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-30 18:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 18:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2007-01-30 19:02 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 19:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 19:10 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 19:29 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 19:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 21:38 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 21:47 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 22:00 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:19 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:39 ` John W. Linville
2007-01-30 22:23 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 13:59 ` Erik Mouw
2007-02-01 14:45 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 22:39 ` Erik Mouw
2007-02-01 15:46 ` Michael Buesch
2007-02-01 16:42 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-01 17:48 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-01-30 22:14 ` Dave Airlie
2007-01-30 22:24 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-30 22:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 13:34 ` David Hollis
2007-01-31 17:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 18:37 ` Bob Copeland
2007-02-01 5:52 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 20:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-01-31 17:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 17:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 17:58 ` alan
2007-01-31 18:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 19:17 ` alan
2007-01-30 22:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:15 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 23:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:19 ` Matthieu CASTET
2007-01-30 22:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 4:02 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-01-31 12:49 ` Alan
2007-01-31 18:37 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2007-01-30 23:03 ` Alan
2007-01-31 17:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-01-31 17:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 17:09 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-02-07 14:03 ` Tejun Heo
2007-02-07 18:40 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 17:28 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:54 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 21:46 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 22:27 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-01-30 22:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 22:50 ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2007-01-30 23:05 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 23:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-30 23:29 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-30 23:45 ` Manu Abraham
2007-01-31 0:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 0:46 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 1:07 ` Roland Dreier
2007-01-31 1:30 ` Greg KH
2007-02-07 10:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2007-01-30 22:43 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:52 ` Diego Calleja
2007-01-30 20:11 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 1:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 1:19 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 2:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 1:24 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 2:11 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-01-31 2:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-02-05 9:49 ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-02-06 13:37 ` Sunil Naidu
2007-02-06 14:57 ` Dave Jones
2007-02-06 16:30 ` Gene Heskett
2007-02-06 16:36 ` Gene Heskett
2007-02-06 21:14 ` Akemi Yagi
2007-02-06 22:15 ` floppy (Re: Free Linux Driver Development!, OT) Oleg Verych
2007-02-07 13:33 ` Free Linux Driver Development! Sunil Naidu
2007-02-07 13:50 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-02-08 0:43 ` David Lang
2007-02-06 15:12 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-06 16:11 ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-01-31 10:08 ` Rewriting floppy.c was " Andi Kleen
2007-01-31 9:20 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-01-31 9:32 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 9:34 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-01-31 16:18 ` Martin Seidl
2007-01-31 17:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-31 18:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 18:58 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-01-31 19:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:46 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-02-01 13:12 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-02-01 13:22 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-02-01 17:13 ` Al Viro
2007-01-31 17:41 ` Sergei Organov
2007-02-01 5:46 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 14:22 ` Sergei Organov
2007-02-01 14:41 ` Alan
2007-01-30 19:08 ` Dmitri Vorobiev
2007-01-30 19:49 ` Greg KH
2007-01-30 20:15 ` Andrew Lyon
2007-01-30 20:30 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 13:29 ` Christer Weinigel
2007-02-04 18:19 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 21:33 ` Christer Weinigel
2007-01-31 2:27 ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-01-31 6:26 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 6:48 ` Kumar Gala
2007-01-31 20:01 ` Michael K. Edwards
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2007-02-04 18:20 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 19:08 ` Miguel Ojeda
2007-02-05 8:13 ` Greg KH
2007-02-05 15:24 ` Jiri Slaby
2007-02-06 6:42 ` Greg KH
2007-02-06 13:35 ` Sunil Naidu
2007-02-06 17:01 ` Greg KH
2007-02-04 18:59 ` Pierre Ossman
2007-02-06 6:44 ` Greg KH
2007-02-06 8:29 ` Manu Abraham
2007-02-06 18:21 ` Greg KH
2007-02-07 7:12 ` Miguel Ojeda
2007-02-07 18:42 ` Greg KH
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2007-01-30 23:35 ` Robert Hancock
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-31 13:06 Nicolas Mailhot
2007-01-31 19:29 ` Francois Romieu
2007-01-31 19:54 ` Auke Kok
2007-01-31 21:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-01-31 21:48 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 20:09 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-01-31 20:12 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 21:15 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 5:50 ` Greg KH
2007-01-31 22:06 ` Dave Jones
2007-01-31 22:08 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-31 23:00 ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-31 23:04 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-02-01 1:08 ` Mark Lord
2007-02-01 1:39 ` Lee Revell
2007-02-01 10:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-31 23:44 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 0:07 ` Trent Waddington
2007-02-01 1:58 ` Greg KH
2007-02-01 8:40 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 9:03 ` Trent Waddington
2007-02-01 9:22 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2007-02-01 9:34 ` Trent Waddington
2007-01-31 23:59 ` Lee Revell
2007-02-01 11:43 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-02-14 12:00 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-02 4:54 Christoph Bartelmus
2007-02-04 6:26 Larry Finger
2007-02-04 10:36 ` Michael Buesch
2007-02-04 21:37 devzero
2007-02-04 23:04 ` Oleg Verych
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