From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Hitoshi Mitake <h.mitake@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:07:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <adamyaavst5.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49EDE9E9.8090905@zytor.com> (H. Peter Anvin's message of "Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:44:41 -0700")
> Okay, I'm going to throw in yet another wrench in the machinery.
> There are devices which really only want to use writeq() if it is an
> inexpensive (no x86 MMX hacks) atomic operation.
Interesting example. It does seem there are several reasonable hardware
design patters where a driver needs to know if writeq() and/or readq()
is atomic.
> One way to deal with that is the <linux/io64*.h> method, another is with
> feature test macros.
A further idea would be to add readq_atomic()/writeq_atomic() that
behave as the current 64-bit versions do: a single instruction,
generates a single bus cycle, etc. Then drivers that really need to
use the full semantics that the 64-bit versions gave can use those,
while drivers that just want a convenient way to read a 64-bit register
can use readq()/writeq().
This only makes sense if we define a 32-bit fallback for
readq()/writeq() for all 32-bit architectures -- in fact it would be
good to do it in asm-generic so that there can be a single
implementation that guarantees that non-atomic versions always do, say,
low 32 bits then high 32 bits. (So eg niu can use the generic version)
And then drivers like drivers/infiniband/hw/mthca can be switched to
"#ifndef writeq_atomic <...hardware specific fallback...>"
However I worry that this just leaves driver authors too much rope.
Choosing readq_atomic() vs. readq() is just one more thing to get wrong.
- R.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-21 17:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-19 19:45 arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars Robert P. J. Day
2009-04-19 21:12 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-19 21:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-19 22:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-19 22:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20 0:56 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20 2:08 ` Robert Hancock
2009-04-20 0:53 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20 1:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-20 10:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20 14:47 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-20 16:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 8:33 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21 8:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 8:57 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21 15:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:07 ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2009-04-21 17:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:23 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 19:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 21:11 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-22 0:31 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 19:05 ` [PATCH] x86: Remove readq()/writeq() on 32-bit Roland Dreier
2009-04-29 5:12 ` David Miller
2009-04-29 11:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 12:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:25 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-29 19:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 5:32 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 23:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 0:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-14 7:19 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-15 23:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-17 7:12 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-17 8:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-21 11:35 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-21 11:49 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 21:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:06 ` Roland Dreier
2009-05-13 22:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:21 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-22 0:27 ` arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars David Miller
2009-04-22 0:25 ` David Miller
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