From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>
Cc: "Satyam Sharma" <satyam.sharma@gmail.com>,
"Matthias Kaehlcke" <matthias.kaehlcke@gmail.com>,
axboe@kernel.dk, linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drivers/block/ub.c: use list_for_each_entry()
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 16:42:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <adaodk1q3ny.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070530163236.8bd5640c.zaitcev@redhat.com> (Pete Zaitcev's message of "Wed, 30 May 2007 16:32:36 -0700")
> > > The negative is the sheer number of helper functions in list.h. Personally,
> > > I find it difficult to retain a working knowledge of them. Iterators are
> > > particularly nasty that way. I'm thinking about dropping all of these
> > > list_for_each_with_murky_argument_requirements_and_odd_side_effects()
> > > and use plain for(;;), as a courtesy to someone who has to read the
> > > code years down the road.
> >
> > I think I disagree with this reasoning. If I'm reading your code and
> > I see, say, list_for_each_entry_safe(), I can be pretty confident that
> > your loop works correctly. If you write your own for loop, then I
> > have to check that you actually got the linked list walking right.
>
> You have to check that I used list_for_each_entry_safe correctly too,
> which is harder. Are you aware that we had (and probably still have)
> dozens of cases where the use of list_for_each_entry_safe was buggy?
> Most of them involved IHV programmers being lured into false sense
> of security by the _safe suffix and getting their locking wrong.
>
> You could not find a better way to blow up your own argument
> than to mention list_for_each_entry_safe(), which is anything but.
> Matthias' use of list_for_each_entry() actually IS safe, which is
> why I am not NAKing it. Andrew has accepted it already. I just
> think we aren't winning squat here.
Well, actually, I chose list_for_each_entry_safe() quite conscious of
the locking issues. If I see list_XXX_safe() then I know that I need
to be suspicious when reviewing code -- the same way seeing "atomic_t"
makes me think "is there any reason to use atomic_t??"
If I just see
for (pos = list_entry((head)->next, typeof(*pos), member),
n = list_entry(pos->member.next, typeof(*pos), member);
&pos->member != (head);
pos = n, n = list_entry(n->member.next, typeof(*n), member))
then what am I to think?
- R.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-30 23:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-30 8:47 [PATCH] drivers/block/ub.c: use list_for_each_entry() Matthias Kaehlcke
2007-05-30 19:38 ` Pete Zaitcev
2007-05-30 20:28 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2007-05-30 21:14 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-30 23:08 ` Pete Zaitcev
2007-05-30 23:14 ` Roland Dreier
2007-05-30 23:32 ` Pete Zaitcev
2007-05-30 23:42 ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2007-05-31 0:05 ` Pete Zaitcev
2007-05-31 4:28 ` Roland Dreier
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