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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Brian Ruley <brian.ruley@gehealthcare.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Steve Capper <steve.capper@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/arm: pgtable: remove young bit check for pte_valid_user
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2026 17:00:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adfNN33QIOP3VfDm@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adfDEMK8EbIjPu3J@zoo11.fihel.lab.ge-healthcare.net>

On Thu, Apr 09, 2026 at 06:17:36PM +0300, Brian Ruley wrote:
> However, in the case I describe, if VA_B is mapped immediately to pfn_q
> after it been has unmapped and freed for VA_A, then it's quite possible
> that the page is still indexed in the cache.

True.

> The hypothesis is that if
> VA_A and VA_B land in the same I-cache set and VA_A old cache entry
> still exists (tagged with pfn_q), then the CPU can fetch stale
> instructions because the tag will match. That's one reason why we need
> to invalidate the cache, but that will be skipped in the path:
> 
>     migrate_pages
>      migrate_pages_batch
>       migrate_folio_move
>        remove_migration_ptes
>         remove_migration_pte
>          set_pte_at
>           set_ptes
>            __sync_icache_dcache  (skipped if !young)
>             set_pte_ext

In this case, if the old PTE was marked !young, then the new PTE will
have:
	pte = pte_mkold(pte);

on it, which marks it !young. As you say, __sync_icache_dcache() will
be skipped. While a PTE entry will be set for the kernel, the code in
set_pte_ext() will *not* establish a hardware PTE entry. For the
2-level pte code:

        tst     r1, #L_PTE_YOUNG	@ <- results in Z being set
        tstne   r1, #L_PTE_VALID	@ <- not executed
        eorne   r1, r1, #L_PTE_NONE	@ <- not executed
        tstne   r1, #L_PTE_NONE		@ <- not executed
        moveq   r3, #0			@ <- hardware PTE value
 ARM(   str     r3, [r0, #2048]! )	@ <- writes hardware PTE

So, for a !young PTE, the hardware PTE entry is written as zero,
which means accesses should fault, which will then cause the PTE to
be marked young.

For the 3-level case, the L_PTE_YOUNG bit corresponds with the AF bit
in the PTE, and there aren't split Linux / hardware PTE entries. AF
being clear should result in a page fault being generated for the
kernel to handle making the PTE young.

In both of these cases, set_ptes() will need to be called with the
updated PTE which will now be marked young, and that will result in
the I-cache being flushed.

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-09 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-09 12:54 [PATCH] mm/arm: pgtable: remove young bit check for pte_valid_user Brian Ruley
2026-04-09 13:56 ` Will Deacon
2026-04-09 14:21   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-04-09 14:43   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-04-09 15:17   ` Brian Ruley
2026-04-09 16:00     ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2026-04-09 14:15 ` Russell King (Oracle)

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