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From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Swapnil Sapkal <Swapnil.Sapkal@amd.com>,
	Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
	Julien Desfossez <jdesfossez@digitalocean.com>,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] sched: Rate limit migrations to 1 per 2ms per task
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2023 15:44:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae4b342c424b76dc3f8adafcc2da7c02b9755b10.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <866f23cc-6725-fc74-099f-450939fc0dc4@efficios.com>

On Tue, 2023-09-05 at 17:16 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> On 9/5/23 16:28, Tim Chen wrote:
> > On Tue, 2023-09-05 at 13:11 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > Rate limit migrations to 1 migration per 2 milliseconds per task. On a
> > > kernel with EEVDF scheduler (commit b97d64c722598ffed42ece814a2cb791336c6679),
> > > this speeds up hackbench from 62s to 45s on AMD EPYC 192-core (over 2 sockets).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > > index 479db611f46e..0d294fce261d 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > > @@ -4510,6 +4510,7 @@ static void __sched_fork(unsigned long clone_flags, struct task_struct *p)
> > >   	p->se.vruntime			= 0;
> > >   	p->se.vlag			= 0;
> > >   	p->se.slice			= sysctl_sched_base_slice;
> > > +	p->se.next_migration_time	= 0;
> > 
> > It seems like the next_migration_time should be initialized to the current time,
> > in case the system run for a long time and clock wrap around could cause problem.
> 
> next_migration_time is a u64, which should "never" overflow. Other 

Reading up on sched_clock() documentation and seems like it should 
indeed be monotonic.
For TSC based clock, which starts from 0 at boot
and TSC doesn't wrap around on the order of ~190 years.  

I wonder about the corner case when a system suspeds and resume.  The
documentation on sched clock says "The clock driving sched_clock() may 
stop or reset to zero during system suspend/sleep".
If the sched_clock is reset to 0, the next_migration_time for all 
suspended tasks should also be reset to 0
before they resume so the next migration time is not in the long future.

Thanks.

Tim

> scheduler code comparing with sched_clock() don't appear to care about 
> u64 overflow. Sampling the next_migration_time on fork could delay 
> migrations for a 2ms window after process creation, which I don't think 
> is something we want. Or if we do want this behavior, it should be 
> validated with benchmarks beforehand.
> 
> > 
> > >   	INIT_LIST_HEAD(&p->se.group_node);
> > >   
> > >   #ifdef CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED
> > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > index d92da2d78774..24ac69913005 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > @@ -960,6 +960,14 @@ int sched_update_scaling(void)
> > >   
> > >   static void clear_buddies(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se);
> > >   
> > > +static bool should_migrate_task(struct task_struct *p, int prev_cpu)
> > > +{
> > > +	/* Rate limit task migration. */
> > > +	if (sched_clock_cpu(prev_cpu) < p->se.next_migration_time)
> > 
> > Should we use time_before(sched_clock_cpu(prev_cpu), p->se.next_migration_time) ?
> 
> No, because time_before expects unsigned long parameters, and 
> sched_clock_cpu() and next_migration_time are u64.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-05 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-05 17:11 [RFC PATCH 0/2] sched/eevdf: Rate limit task migration Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-05 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] sched: Rate limit migrations to 1 per 2ms per task Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-05 20:28   ` Tim Chen
2023-09-05 21:16     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-05 22:44       ` Tim Chen [this message]
2023-09-06  9:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-06 20:51           ` Tim Chen
2023-09-06 21:55             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-06  8:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-06 13:58         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-06  8:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-06 13:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-06 15:38       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-10  7:03       ` Chen Yu
2023-09-13 15:46         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-05 17:11 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] sched: Implement adaptative rate limiting of task migrations Mathieu Desnoyers

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