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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: "yosry@kernel.org" <yosry@kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"vkuznets@redhat.com" <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	 "dwmw2@infradead.org" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"paul@xen.org" <paul@xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/11] KVM: VMX: Read 32-bit GPR values for ENCLS instructions outside of 64-bit mode
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2026 17:27:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeAtAm0yezpj9EP1@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9f4a3dfa2d3fa2a81161652d81585b779a182866.camel@intel.com>

On Wed, Apr 15, 2026, Kai Huang wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-04-15 at 14:37 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2026, Kai Huang wrote:
> > But IIRC, that's "just" the architectural behavior.  Hardware implementations may
> > choose to preserve values.
> 
> That seems to be a violation to a "basic" architecture :-)

Not really.  The SDM says they aren't guaranteed to be _preserved_.  It doesn't
say that they will be zeroed.  And so literally any value in bits 63:32 is
architecturally legal.

> > > If vCPU is in 32-bit mode then it should not be able to access 64-bit GPR?
> > 
> > Yes and no.  Mostly no.  Architecturally, they're all off limits.  But, again
> > going from memory that's ~15 years old at this point, IIRC the behavior is that
> > writes in 32-bit modes zero bits 63:32, same as 32-bit writes in 64-bit mode.
> > 
> > Take all of my memory with a huge grain of salt, it's very possible I'm
> > mis-remembering hallway discussions from a long time ago.
> 
> I tend to think it's beyond the point we need to worry about.  It shouldn't
> happen even the guest is buggy or malicious AFAICT, unless KVM somehow
> messes things up itself, in which case a WARN() is more reasonable I
> suppose.

KVM needs to worry about it from the perspective of not consuming garbage.  As
above, KVM cannot assume bits 63:32 are zero, and so needs to be careful to only
consume bits 31:0.

> This also made me look into whether how VMENTER handles GPRs when vCPU is
> not in 64-bit mode.  I see nothing described in the SDM except VMENTRY
> checks "guest's" RIP and RFLAGS.  Maybe KVM should explicitly clear high
> bits of GPRs when going back to compatible mode from 64-bit mode, or maybe
> hardware does it?

Definitely not.  VM-Exit => VM-Enter must be transparent to the guest.  E.g. if
a host IRQ arrives, register state shouldn't magically change from the guest's
perspective.  If hardware clobbers state, so be it.  But I don't want KVM to
actively clobber registers in this case.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-16  0:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-09 23:56 [PATCH 00/11] KVM: x86: Clean up kvm_<reg>_{read,write}() mess Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 01/11] KVM: SVM: Truncate INVLPGA address in compatibility mode Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 02/11] KVM: x86/xen: Bug the VM if 32-bit KVM observes a 64-bit mode hypercall Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 03/11] KVM: x86/xen: Don't truncate RAX when handling hypercall from protected guest Sean Christopherson
2026-04-13 10:36   ` Binbin Wu
2026-04-15 21:29     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 04/11] KVM: VMX: Read 32-bit GPR values for ENCLS instructions outside of 64-bit mode Sean Christopherson
2026-04-13 12:19   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-15 21:37     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-15 23:32       ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-16  0:27         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-04-16  1:40           ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 05/11] KVM: x86: Trace hypercall register *after* truncating values for 32-bit Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 06/11] KVM: x86: Move kvm_<reg>_{read,write}() definitions to x86.h Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 07/11] KVM: x86: Add mode-aware versions of kvm_<reg>_{read,write}() helpers Sean Christopherson
2026-04-14  8:26   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-14 15:42     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-14 22:40       ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-14  9:02   ` Binbin Wu
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 08/11] KVM: x86: Drop non-raw kvm_<reg>_write() helpers Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 09/11] KVM: nSVM: Use kvm_rax_read() now that it's mode-aware Sean Christopherson
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 10/11] Revert "KVM: VMX: Read 32-bit GPR values for ENCLS instructions outside of 64-bit mode" Sean Christopherson
2026-04-16  1:42   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-09 23:56 ` [PATCH 11/11] KVM: x86: Harden is_64_bit_hypercall() against bugs on 32-bit kernels Sean Christopherson
2026-04-16  1:43   ` Huang, Kai

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