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From: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>,
	"David Lechner" <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@kernel.org>,
	"Ping-Ke Shih" <pkshih@realtek.com>,
	"Richard Cochran" <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Alexandre Belloni" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	"Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	"Rasmus Villemoes" <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	"Hans de Goede" <hansg@kernel.org>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linusw@kernel.org>,
	"Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Salah Triki" <salah.triki@gmail.com>,
	"Achim Gratz" <Achim.Gratz@stromeko.de>,
	"Ben Collins" <bcollins@watter.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] x86/extable: switch to using FIELD_GET_SIGNED()
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 13:18:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeZf98xjbxdHvZOS@yury> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260420112428.GF3102624@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 01:24:28PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 01:36:13PM -0400, Yury Norov wrote:
> > The EX_DATA register is laid out such that EX_DATA_IMM occupied MSB.
> > It's done to make sure that FIELD_GET() will sign-extend the IMM
> > field during extraction.
> > 
> > To enforce that, all EX_DATA masks are made signed integers. This
> > works, but relies on the particular implementation of FIELD_GET(),
> > i.e. masking then shifting, not vice versa; and the particular
> > placement of the fields in the register.
> 
> I don't think the order of the mask and shift matters in this case. If
> we were to first shift down and then mask, it would still work (after
> all, the mask would also need to be shifted and would also get sign
> extended, effectively ending up as -1).
 
FIELD_GET() doesn't require mask to be signed when a reg is signed, so
shifting mask may become zero-extended in an alternative implementation:

        (reg >> __bf_shf(mask)) & (mask >> __bf_shf(mask)

This all is hypothetical, anyways.

> But yes, this very much depends on the signed field being the topmost
> field and including the MSB.

This is the part I dislike mostly. This would look just like undefined
behavior for the API user: depending on fields placement or type of the
inputs, sometimes FIELD_GET() sign-extendeds the field, and sometimes
not. 

We could likely force FIELD_GET() to treat both reg and mask as unsigned
types, and state that explicitly in the documentation.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-20 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-17 17:36 [PATCH 0/9] bitfield: add FIELD_GET_SIGNED() Yury Norov
2026-04-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 1/9] " Yury Norov
2026-04-17 18:12   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-04-17 19:43   ` David Laight
2026-04-17 21:09     ` Yury Norov
2026-04-20  8:43   ` Johannes Berg
2026-04-20 11:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-20 17:54     ` Yury Norov
2026-04-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 2/9] x86/extable: switch to using FIELD_GET_SIGNED() Yury Norov
2026-04-20 11:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-20 17:18     ` Yury Norov [this message]
2026-04-20 22:00       ` David Laight
2026-04-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 3/9] iio: intel_dc_ti_adc: " Yury Norov
2026-04-19 13:18   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-04-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 4/9] iio: magnetometer: yas530: " Yury Norov
2026-04-19 13:20   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-04-19 20:11   ` Linus Walleij
2026-04-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 5/9] iio: pressure: bmp280: " Yury Norov
2026-04-19 13:21   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-04-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 6/9] iio: mcp9600: " Yury Norov
2026-04-19 13:21   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-04-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 7/9] wifi: rtw89: " Yury Norov
2026-04-20  7:49   ` Ping-Ke Shih
2026-04-20 17:59     ` Yury Norov
2026-04-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 8/9] rtc: rv3032: " Yury Norov
2026-04-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 9/9] ptp: " Yury Norov
2026-04-17 18:23 ` [PATCH 0/9] bitfield: add FIELD_GET_SIGNED() Andy Shevchenko
2026-04-17 19:21   ` Yury Norov

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