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From: Tzung-Bi Shih <tzungbi@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Benson Leung <bleung@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, chrome-platform@lists.linux.dev,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
	Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8] char: misc: Introduce misc_sync_register()
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 09:38:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <af2vHu9AiSeGyp01@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260428160956.GC718365@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 01:09:56PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 09:46:54PM +0800, Tzung-Bi Shih wrote:
> > Introduce misc_sync_register() to support synchronous file operations
> > for misc devices.  This aims to prevent Use-After-Free errors when a
> > device is deregistered while file operations are still in progress or
> > files are open.
> > 
> > It creates a synchronization context that wraps supported file
> > operations and ensures the device is still registered before invoking
> > the file operations.
> > 
> > The minor number is deferred from being freed immediately on
> > deregistration and is used as a primary key to search for the
> > synchronization context in `misc_sync_ctx_list` after the device is
> > unregistered.
> > 
> > Performance impact:
> > - All file operations are serialized by a global lock.
> > - All file operations perform a linear search to find the corresponding
> >   miscdevice.
> 
> This doesn't seem like a serious proposal, this is too much
> performance cost.

Thank you for the feedback.  I understand your concerns about the performance
cost, particularly regarding the global lock and linear search.

This is indeed a serious proposal, and I've dedicated time to developing and
testing it.  Our primary goal is to address a real-world UAF issue we've
encountered on our platforms by integrating a solution upstream, whether it
uses revocable mechanism[1] or not, rather than carrying downstream patches.

I see this as the cost for synchronizing file operations with misc driver
registration, as previously mentioned in [2], which I believe is necessary
to prevent the race conditions.  I'm open to discussing potential
optimizations or alternative approaches if you have suggestions.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260427135841.96266-10-tzungbi@kernel.org
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/aTvTLpFmyVxanvYC@google.com

       reply	other threads:[~2026-05-08  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260427134659.95181-1-tzungbi@kernel.org>
     [not found] ` <20260427134659.95181-4-tzungbi@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <20260428160956.GC718365@nvidia.com>
2026-05-08  9:38     ` Tzung-Bi Shih [this message]
2026-05-08 11:54       ` [PATCH 3/8] char: misc: Introduce misc_sync_register() Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-09  9:40         ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-05-09 16:32           ` Jason Gunthorpe

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