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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] mm: make mm->flags a bitmap and 64-bit on all arches
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2025 05:18:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <af5492d4-f8dc-4270-a4c6-73d76f098942@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250812201326.60843-1-sj@kernel.org>

On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 01:13:26PM -0700, SeongJae Park wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 16:44:09 +0100 Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> > We are currently in the bizarre situation where we are constrained on the
> > number of flags we can set in an mm_struct based on whether this is a
> > 32-bit or 64-bit kernel.
> >
> > This is because mm->flags is an unsigned long field, which is 32-bits on a
> > 32-bit system and 64-bits on a 64-bit system.
> >
> > In order to keep things functional across both architectures, we do not
> > permit mm flag bits to be set above flag 31 (i.e. the 32nd bit).
> >
> > This is a silly situation, especially given how profligate we are in
> > storing metadata in mm_struct, so let's convert mm->flags into a bitmap and
> > allow ourselves as many bits as we like.
>
> I like this conversion.

Thanks!

>
> [...]
> >
> > In order to execute this change, we introduce a new opaque type -
> > mm_flags_t - which wraps a bitmap.
>
> I have no strong opinion here, but I think coding-style.rst[1] has one?  To
> quote,
>
>     Please don't use things like ``vps_t``.
>     It's a **mistake** to use typedef for structures and pointers.

You stopped reading the relevant section in [1] :) Keep going and you see:

	Lots of people think that typedefs help readability. Not so. They
	are useful only for: totally opaque objects (where the typedef is
	actively used to hide what the object is).  Example: pte_t
	etc. opaque objects that you can only access using the proper
	accessor functions.

So this is what this is.

The point is that it's opaque, that is you aren't supposed to know about or
care about what's inside, you use the accessors.

This means we can extend the size of this thing as we like, and can enforce
atomicity through the accessors.

We further highlight the opaqueness through the use of the __private.

>
> checkpatch.pl also complains similarly.
>
> Again, I have no strong opinion, but I think adding a clarification about why
> we use typedef despite of the documented recommendation here might be nice?

I already gave one, I clearly indicate it's opaque.

>
> [...]
> > For mm->flags initialisation on fork, we adjust the logic to ensure all
> > bits are cleared correctly, and then adjust the existing intialisation
>
> Nit.  s/intialisation/initialisation/ ?

Ack thanks!

>
> [...]
>
> [1] https://docs.kernel.org/process/coding-style.html#typedefs
>
>
> Thanks,
> SJ

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-13  4:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-12 15:44 [PATCH 00/10] mm: make mm->flags a bitmap and 64-bit on all arches Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 15:44 ` [PATCH 01/10] mm: add bitmap mm->flags field Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 16:20   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-13 19:53   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 12:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 15:44 ` [PATCH 02/10] mm: convert core mm to mm_flags_*() accessors Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 16:32   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-12 22:52   ` Andrew Morton
2025-08-13  4:11     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-14  8:27   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-15  6:07   ` Baolin Wang
2025-08-26 12:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26 12:58     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 15:44 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: convert prctl " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 16:34   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-14  8:29   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-26 12:50   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 15:44 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: convert arch-specific code " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 17:19   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-13 14:10   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-14  8:30   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-26 12:51   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 15:44 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: convert uprobes " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 17:24   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-14  8:33   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-26 12:51   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 15:44 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: update coredump logic to correctly use bitmap mm flags Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 17:26   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-14  8:37   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-15 13:52   ` Christian Brauner
2025-08-15 14:12     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 11:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 12:52   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 15:44 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: correct sign-extension issue in MMF_* flag masks Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 17:30   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-14  8:38   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-26 13:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26 13:59     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 14:08   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 15:44 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: update fork mm->flags initialisation to use bitmap Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 17:31   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-14  8:39   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-26 13:12   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26 14:21     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 14:28       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26 14:32         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 15:24           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26 15:39             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 15:53               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26 16:26                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 15:44 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: convert remaining users to mm_flags_*() accessors Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 17:32   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-14  8:42   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-26 13:13   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-12 15:44 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: replace mm->flags with bitmap entirely and set to 64 bits Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 17:35   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-08-12 17:43     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-14  8:43   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-26 13:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26 13:22     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-12 20:13 ` [PATCH 00/10] mm: make mm->flags a bitmap and 64-bit on all arches SeongJae Park
2025-08-13  4:18   ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-08-13 16:24     ` SeongJae Park

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