From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: "Leonardo Bras" <leo.bras@arm.com>,
"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/12] KVM Dirty-bit cleaning accelerator (HACDBS)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 11:11:14 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <afQLwhnDLtCHnjeQ@sirena.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86a4ukzel3.wl-maz@kernel.org>
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On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 03:51:20PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com> wrote:
> > There is no enablement needed on VMM side.
> > Yes, I have created a VM on upstream qemu with --enable-kvm and migrated it
> > on the same host. (Inside a model)
> > That was the first test I used, but then I found out that kvm selftests
> > stress up multiple scenarios in an easier way.
> Except when they don't. In my experience, the selftests are only there
> to give the CI people the fuzzy feeling that they are doing something
> useful. I have a collection of examples indicating that what these
> things test is not representative of the bugs we have in KVM.
There's a bit of a circular thing there - if things are working well
then the selftests really shouldn't be representitive of the problems
that turn up since people ought to have seen any issues they show during
development. If you could share your list that'd be helpful.
TBH the various stress style tests like the dirty bit ones in the KVM
selftests are actually a bit of a pain for CI IME. Since they all
control their runtimes by iteration counts rather than time there's
scaling issues, the performance is such that on lower end systems
they're often on the edge of generating timeouts leading to unstable
results. They also interact so poorly with the fast models that the run
time blows up spectacularly which is it's own problem trying to run
them, that's partly on the model side of course. These performance
and/or stress tests really aren't idiomatic for kselftest so there's
always going to be some tension with trying to run them in that
framework.
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-30 11:14 [PATCH v1 00/12] KVM Dirty-bit cleaning accelerator (HACDBS) Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 01/12] KVM: arm64: Enable eager hugepage splitting if HDBSS is available Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 02/12] KVM: arm64: HDBSS bits Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 03/12] arm64/cpufeature: Add system-wide FEAT_HACDBS detection Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 04/12] arm64/sysreg: Add HACDBS consumer and base registers Leonardo Bras
2026-05-03 1:01 ` Mark Brown
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 05/12] KVM: arm64: Detect (via ACPI) and initialize HACDBSIRQ Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 06/12] KVM: arm64: dirty_bit: Add base FEAT_HACDBS cleaning routine Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 07/12] kvm: Add arch-generic interface for hw-accelerated dirty-bitmap cleaning Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 08/12] KVM: arm64: Add hardware-accelerated dirty-bitmap cleaning routine Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 09/12] kvm/dirty_ring: Introduce get_memslot and move helpers to header Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 10/12] kvm/dirty_ring: Add arch-generic interface for hw-accelerated dirty-ring cleaning Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 11/12] KVM: arm64: Add hardware-accelerated dirty-ring cleaning routine Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 11:14 ` [PATCH v1 12/12] KVM: arm64: Enable KVM_HW_DIRTY_BIT Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 13:14 ` [PATCH v1 00/12] KVM Dirty-bit cleaning accelerator (HACDBS) Marc Zyngier
2026-04-30 13:29 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-04-30 14:51 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-30 15:35 ` Leonardo Bras
2026-05-01 2:11 ` Mark Brown [this message]
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