From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Mark Bloch <mbloch@nvidia.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 0/4] devlink: Add boot-time defaults
Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 17:22:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aftaW-irGmkfA7FS@FV6GYCPJ69> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260506123739.1959770-1-mbloch@nvidia.com>
Wed, May 06, 2026 at 02:37:35PM +0200, mbloch@nvidia.com wrote:
>This series adds a devlink= kernel command line parameter for applying
>selected devlink settings during device initialization.
>
>Following a discussion with Jakub[1], I am sending this RFC to get the
>conversation moving. I started from Jakub's example/request and extended
>it to cover requirements from production systems and configurations that
>customers use.
>
>One important caveat is that the parsing logic in this RFC was written
>with AI assistance. I am also not sure whether the resulting syntax and
>parser are too complex for a kernel command line interface. This is part
>of why I am sending it as an RFC: to understand what direction and level
>of complexity would be acceptable to people.
>
>The implementation is intended to support the following properties:
>
>- A system may have multiple devlink devices that usually need the same
> configuration. For a configuration such as eswitch mode switchdev, a
> user should be able to specify multiple devices to which that
> configuration applies.
>
>- There may be ordering dependencies between options. For example, in
> mlx5, flow_steering_mode should be set before moving to switchdev.
> With this in mind, defaults are applied per device in the left-to-right
> order in which they appear on the command line.
>
>The intent is to let deployments set devlink defaults before normal
>userspace orchestration runs, while still using devlink concepts and
"defaults before normal userspace orchestrarion". I read it as config
before config, which eventually could be skipped.
>driver callbacks rather than adding driver-specific module parameters.
>A default is scoped to one or more devlink handles, for example:
>
> devlink=[pci/0000:08:00.0]:esw:mode:switchdev
> devlink=[pci/0000:08:00.0]:param:flow_steering_mode:smfs
> devlink=[pci/0000:08:00.0,pci/0000:08:00.1]:param:flow_steering_mode:hmfs,[pci/0000:08:00.0,pci/0000:08:00.1]:esw:mode:switchdev
I don't like this. What you do, you are basically introducing user
configuration tool on kernel cmdline.
The same you would achieve with a proper userspace tool/daemon.
I did try to come up with it and push it here:
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/37393
That didn't get merged for unknown reason, but the idea is sound. You
provide configuration files for devlink object and systemd-devlinkd
will apply when they appear. Wouldn't this help your case?
[..]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-06 15:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-06 12:37 [RFC net-next 0/4] devlink: Add boot-time defaults Mark Bloch
2026-05-06 12:37 ` [RFC net-next 1/4] devlink: Add infrastructure for " Mark Bloch
2026-05-06 12:37 ` [RFC net-next 2/4] devlink: Add eswitch mode boot default Mark Bloch
2026-05-06 12:37 ` [RFC net-next 3/4] devlink: Add runtime parameter boot defaults Mark Bloch
2026-05-06 12:37 ` [RFC net-next 4/4] net/mlx5: Apply devlink boot defaults during init Mark Bloch
2026-05-06 15:22 ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2026-05-06 17:35 ` [RFC net-next 0/4] devlink: Add boot-time defaults Mark Bloch
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