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From: Anthony Iliopoulos <ailiop@suse.com>
To: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
	corbet@lwn.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	skhan@linuxfoundation.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 12:33:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <agGweC12aloH8DBq@foo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af8pw54Y-Q18kSR0@laps>

On Sat, May 09, 2026 at 08:34:11AM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
> On Sat, May 09, 2026 at 02:02:24PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > * Sasha Levin:
> > 
> > > When a kernel (security) issue goes public, fleets stay exposed until a patched
> > > kernel is built, distributed, and rebooted into.
> > > 
> > > For many such issues the simplest mitigation is to stop calling the buggy
> > > function. Killswitch provides that. An admin writes:
> > > 
> > >     echo "engage af_alg_sendmsg -1" \
> > >         > /sys/kernel/security/killswitch/control
> > > 
> > > After this, af_alg_sendmsg() returns -EPERM on every call without
> > > running its body. The mitigation takes effect immediately, and is dropped on
> > > the next reboot -- by which point a patched kernel is hopefully in place.
> > 
> > Do you expect this to be safe to enable in kernel lockdown mode (i.e.,
> > with typical Secure Boot configurations in distributions)?
> 
> Yes: under lockdown, killswitch has to be configured on the cmdline. Runtime
> engage is gated on the new LOCKDOWN_KILLSWITCH reason.

Basically this proposal allows for any function to be overridden on a
production kernel as long as no lockdown level is enabled, which is quite
dangerous.

Assuming this is acceptable (which I am not sure it should be), then this
is equivalent to the existing error injection code that we already have in
the kernel (CONFIG_FAIL_FUNCTION) minus the explicit whitelisting on a per
function basis required to permit injection.

Given that this achieves the exact same result, then why don't we consider
simply removing the whitelisting restriction from fail_function altogether
and use that instead? The only thing missing then would be the boot param
parsing and setup.

This way we'll be removing a few hundred lines of code instead of adding
more duplication, while enabling the same functionality.

[As a bonus, this would also make the existing framework more practical to
 use for testing arbitrary function failures. I have been carrying a debug
 only patch to that effect for a while, which basically just shorts the
 whitelisting check when CONFIG_FUNCTION_ERROR_INJECTION_ALLOW_ALL=y.]

Regards,
Anthony

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-11 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-08 19:57 [PATCH v2] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive Sasha Levin
2026-05-09 12:02 ` Florian Weimer
2026-05-09 12:34   ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 10:33     ` Anthony Iliopoulos [this message]
2026-05-11 11:15       ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 17:23         ` Anthony Iliopoulos
2026-05-11 20:12           ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 13:14 ` Breno Leitao
2026-05-11 13:41   ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 14:59     ` Breno Leitao

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