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From: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwi@linutronix.de>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Christian Ludloff <ludloff@gmail.com>,
	Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, x86-cpuid@lists.linux.dev,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 10/90] x86/cpu: Rescan CPUID table after disabling PSN
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 19:25:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <agS0A2pRhz_qCPce@lx-t490> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260513165128.GFagSsEPFCogQu7n5t@fat_crate.local>

On Wed, 13 May 2026, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>
> I think you mean whatever has done clear_cpu_cap() which doesn't use the
> cpu_caps_cleared/set arrays.
>

Exactly.

There are almost a 100 call sites which directly do a set_cpu_cap():

    git grep 'set_cpu_cap(c, X86' arch/x86/

And none of those goes through the cpu_caps_set[] array, and thus into the
apply_forced_caps() thing.  The bit is just directly set through bitops.

So, resetting the CPUID table whole sale will drastically alter the x86
subystem behavior here.

> > I'm sending another patch queue iteration shortly that have a new API
> > function abstracting this min_t() logic in its own parser function, along
> > with better documentation:
> >
> >     https://lkml.kernel.org/agSfWTxs9pRPHJxl@lx-t490/
>
> And I don't want to pay attention to which ranges I've parsed and which I
> haven't. That's too fragile. I want to simply rescan the whole thing and
> be up-to-date.

Yes, but AFAIK this changes kernel behavior to (what is at least to me) a
now-unknown behavior.

>
> Also, what guarantees that this thing:
>
> 	rescan_from = min_t(int, l0->max_std_leaf, c->cpuid_level) + 1;
> 	cpuid_refresh_range(c, rescan_from, CPUID_BASE_END);
>
> doesn't overwrite some unrelated ranges?
>
> Also, in your example:
>
> * First case:
>
>          leaf 0x0
> 	   leaf 0x1
> 	   leaf 0x2     <- Old max CPUID
> 	   leaf 0x3
> 	   leaf 0x4
> 	   leaf 0x5
> 	   leaf 0x6
> 	   leaf 0x7
> 	   leaf 0x9     <- *New* max CPUID
>
> when you rescan and overwrite [2-9], what guarantees that you don't overwrite
> an already set or cleared bit in those new leafs, say in leaf 5?
>
> Neither set_cpu_cap() nor clear_cpu_cap() pay attention to the max base leaf
> value?

Hmmm, that's a valid point.

So, clear_cpu_cap() logs the cleared bits to cpu_caps_cleared[].

Is there a reason why set_cpu_cap(), supposedly its parallel function,
totally ommits cpu_caps_set[]?

If we can track the clear_cpu_cap() bits above, then AFAIK a reliable
solution would be to just re-initialize the whole CPUID table whole sale
and then invoke apply_forced_caps().

Thanks,
Ahmed

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-13 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260327021645.555257-1-darwi@linutronix.de>
     [not found] ` <20260327152354.GBacahCioljpw5QqUc@fat_crate.local>
     [not found]   ` <acrBBFyU_vi4zFOx@lx-t490>
     [not found]     ` <20260330230836.GLacsCdDkVu0H3XU4l@fat_crate.local>
     [not found]       ` <adz3z_MaWJr_GOtc@lx-t490>
     [not found]         ` <ae-uw9836AJScRsq@lx-t490>
2026-05-05 13:33           ` [PATCH v6 00/90] x86: Introduce a centralized CPUID data model Borislav Petkov
2026-05-05 15:12             ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-05 19:11               ` Christian Ludloff
2026-05-06  8:50                 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-06 13:59                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-05-06 14:58                     ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-06 18:13                   ` Christian Ludloff
2026-05-06 21:57                 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-06 22:18                   ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-06 23:03                     ` Christian Ludloff
2026-05-06 20:52               ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-07 10:17                 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-07 20:02                   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
     [not found] ` <20260327021645.555257-11-darwi@linutronix.de>
2026-05-11 20:00   ` [PATCH v6 10/90] x86/cpu: Rescan CPUID table after disabling PSN Borislav Petkov
2026-05-12  7:12     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-12 14:34       ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-13 15:27         ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-13 16:06           ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-13 16:51             ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-13 17:09               ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-13 17:21                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-05-13 17:25               ` Ahmed S. Darwish [this message]
2026-05-13 17:38                 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-13 17:48                   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-13 15:57         ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-13 16:25           ` Ahmed S. Darwish

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