From: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwi@linutronix.de>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Christian Ludloff <ludloff@gmail.com>,
Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
x86@kernel.org, x86-cpuid@lists.linux.dev,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 10/90] x86/cpu: Rescan CPUID table after disabling PSN
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 19:25:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <agS0A2pRhz_qCPce@lx-t490> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260513165128.GFagSsEPFCogQu7n5t@fat_crate.local>
On Wed, 13 May 2026, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>
> I think you mean whatever has done clear_cpu_cap() which doesn't use the
> cpu_caps_cleared/set arrays.
>
Exactly.
There are almost a 100 call sites which directly do a set_cpu_cap():
git grep 'set_cpu_cap(c, X86' arch/x86/
And none of those goes through the cpu_caps_set[] array, and thus into the
apply_forced_caps() thing. The bit is just directly set through bitops.
So, resetting the CPUID table whole sale will drastically alter the x86
subystem behavior here.
> > I'm sending another patch queue iteration shortly that have a new API
> > function abstracting this min_t() logic in its own parser function, along
> > with better documentation:
> >
> > https://lkml.kernel.org/agSfWTxs9pRPHJxl@lx-t490/
>
> And I don't want to pay attention to which ranges I've parsed and which I
> haven't. That's too fragile. I want to simply rescan the whole thing and
> be up-to-date.
Yes, but AFAIK this changes kernel behavior to (what is at least to me) a
now-unknown behavior.
>
> Also, what guarantees that this thing:
>
> rescan_from = min_t(int, l0->max_std_leaf, c->cpuid_level) + 1;
> cpuid_refresh_range(c, rescan_from, CPUID_BASE_END);
>
> doesn't overwrite some unrelated ranges?
>
> Also, in your example:
>
> * First case:
>
> leaf 0x0
> leaf 0x1
> leaf 0x2 <- Old max CPUID
> leaf 0x3
> leaf 0x4
> leaf 0x5
> leaf 0x6
> leaf 0x7
> leaf 0x9 <- *New* max CPUID
>
> when you rescan and overwrite [2-9], what guarantees that you don't overwrite
> an already set or cleared bit in those new leafs, say in leaf 5?
>
> Neither set_cpu_cap() nor clear_cpu_cap() pay attention to the max base leaf
> value?
Hmmm, that's a valid point.
So, clear_cpu_cap() logs the cleared bits to cpu_caps_cleared[].
Is there a reason why set_cpu_cap(), supposedly its parallel function,
totally ommits cpu_caps_set[]?
If we can track the clear_cpu_cap() bits above, then AFAIK a reliable
solution would be to just re-initialize the whole CPUID table whole sale
and then invoke apply_forced_caps().
Thanks,
Ahmed
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2026-05-05 13:33 ` [PATCH v6 00/90] x86: Introduce a centralized CPUID data model Borislav Petkov
2026-05-05 15:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-05 19:11 ` Christian Ludloff
2026-05-06 8:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-06 13:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-05-06 14:58 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-06 18:13 ` Christian Ludloff
2026-05-06 21:57 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-06 22:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-06 23:03 ` Christian Ludloff
2026-05-06 20:52 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-07 10:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-07 20:02 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
[not found] ` <20260327021645.555257-11-darwi@linutronix.de>
2026-05-11 20:00 ` [PATCH v6 10/90] x86/cpu: Rescan CPUID table after disabling PSN Borislav Petkov
2026-05-12 7:12 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-12 14:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-13 15:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-13 16:06 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-13 16:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-13 17:09 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-13 17:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-05-13 17:25 ` Ahmed S. Darwish [this message]
2026-05-13 17:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-05-13 17:48 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-13 15:57 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-05-13 16:25 ` Ahmed S. Darwish
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