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From: davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks
Date: 17 Jul 2002 18:51:25 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ah4ebd$2vc$1@gatekeeper.tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20020716125301.GI4576@merlin.emma.line.org

In article <20020716125301.GI4576@merlin.emma.line.org>,
Matthias Andree  <matthias.andree@stud.uni-dortmund.de> wrote:

| dsmc fstat()s the file it is currently reading regularly and retries the
| dump as the changes, and gives up if it is updated too often. Not sure
| about the server side, and certainly not a useful option for sequential
| devices that you directly write on. Looks like a cache for the biggest
| file is necessary.

Which doesn't address the issue of data in files A, B and C, with
indices in X and Y. This only works if you flush and freeze all the
files at one time, making a perfect backup of one at a time results in
corruption if the database is busy.

My favorite example is usenet news on INN, a bunch of circular spools, a
linear history with two index files, 30-40k overview files, and all of
it changing with perhaps 3.5MB/sec data and 20-50/sec index writes. Far
better done with an application backup!

The point is, backups are hard, for many systems dump is optimal because
it's fast. After that I like cpio (-Hcrc) but that's personal
preference. All have fail cases on volatile data.
-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-17 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-12 16:21 [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Dax Kelson
2002-07-12 17:05 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-12 17:26   ` kwijibo
2002-07-12 17:36     ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-12 20:34 ` Chris Mason
2002-07-13  4:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-14 20:40 ` Dax Kelson
2002-07-15  8:26   ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-15 12:30     ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 12:02       ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-15 13:23         ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 13:40           ` Chris Mason
2002-07-15 19:40             ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-15 15:12         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-15 16:03         ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-15 16:12           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-15 17:48           ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-15 18:47             ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-15 19:26               ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-16  8:18               ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 12:22                 ` Gerhard Mack
2002-07-16 12:49                   ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 15:11                     ` Gerhard Mack
2002-07-16 15:22                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-16 15:39                       ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 19:45                         ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 20:04                           ` Shawn
2002-07-16 20:11                             ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-16 20:22                               ` Shawn
2002-07-16 20:27                                 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-17 11:45                                 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-17 19:02                                   ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-18  9:29                                     ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-19  8:29                                     ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-19 16:39                                       ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-19 20:01                                         ` Shawn
2002-07-19 20:47                                           ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-15 21:14             ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-17 18:41               ` bill davidsen
2002-07-17 19:47                 ` [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks (whither dump?) Lew Wolfgang
2002-07-16  8:15             ` [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 12:27               ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 12:43                 ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 12:53                   ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 13:05                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-07-16 19:38                       ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 19:49                         ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-16 20:11                         ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 21:06                           ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 21:23                             ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-16 21:38                               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-17 11:47                               ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-18 14:50                               ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-18 15:09                                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-16 22:19                             ` Backups done right (was [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks) stoffel
2002-07-16 22:33                               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-18 15:04                               ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-18 15:27                                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-18 15:50                                 ` stoffel
2002-07-18 16:29                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-19 15:28                               ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-17 18:51                     ` bill davidsen [this message]
2002-07-18  9:32                       ` [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 12:09       ` Matti Aarnio
     [not found] <20020712162306$aa7d@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
     [not found] ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/20020712162306$aa7d@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
2002-07-15 15:22   ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-15 17:31     ` Chris Mason
2002-07-15 18:33     ` Matthias Andree
     [not found]     ` <20020715173337$acad@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
     [not found]       ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/20020715173337$acad@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
2002-07-15 19:13         ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-15 20:55           ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 21:23             ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-15 21:38               ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 12:31                 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 15:53                   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 19:26                     ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 19:38                       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-15 21:59               ` Ketil Froyn
2002-07-15 23:08                 ` Matti Aarnio
2002-07-16 12:33                   ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 22:55             ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 21:58               ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 21:14           ` Chris Mason
2002-07-15 21:31             ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-15 22:12               ` Richard A Nelson
2002-07-16  1:02               ` Lawrence Greenfield
     [not found]                 ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/200207160102.g6G12BiH022986@lin2.andrew.cmu.edu>
2002-07-16  1:43                   ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-16  1:56                     ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 12:47                     ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 21:09                     ` James Antill
2002-07-16 12:35             ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16  7:07     ` Dax Kelson

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