From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Linux-2.5 fix/improve get_pid()
Date: 8 Aug 2002 14:30:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiuntr$80g$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0208081312330.8705-100000@home.transmeta.com
Followup to: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208081312330.8705-100000@home.transmeta.com>
By author: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
>
> Guys, this discussion is getting ridiculous.
>
> Doing a bit allocator should be trivial, but it's hard to know when a bit
> is to be free'd. You can't just do it at "exit()" time, because even if
> pid X exits, that doesn't mean that X can be re-used: it may still be used
> as a pgid or a tid by some other process Y.
>
> So if you really want to take this approach, you need to count the uses of
> "pid X", and free the bitmap entry only when that count goes to zero. I
> see no such logic in Bill Irwin's code, only a comment about last use
> (which doesn't explain how to notice that last use).
>
Even so, we need to maintain Not Recently Used semantic. A discussion
on #kernel seems to have ended up with recommending a design target of
"no pid reuse within 30 seconds", with 1 second being an absolute
requirement.
-hpa
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-08-08 21:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-08-07 22:03 [PATCH] Linux-2.5 fix/improve get_pid() Paul Larson
2002-08-07 23:06 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-08 0:24 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-08-08 19:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-08 20:47 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-08-09 11:22 ` Analysis for Linux-2.5 fix/improve get_pid(), comparing various approaches Hubertus Franke
2002-08-09 15:36 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-08-09 18:14 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-08-09 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-09 18:18 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-08-08 20:24 ` [PATCH] Linux-2.5 fix/improve get_pid() Linus Torvalds
2002-08-08 21:30 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2002-08-08 21:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-08-09 4:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-08-08 18:56 Hubertus Franke
2002-08-08 19:15 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-08 19:18 ` Paul Larson
2002-08-08 21:43 Hubertus Franke
2002-08-08 22:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-08 22:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-08 23:09 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-09 3:26 ` Chris Adams
2002-08-09 7:04 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-09 8:48 ` Helge Hafting
2002-08-09 10:32 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-09 9:35 ` Andrew Morton
2002-08-09 10:37 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-08-09 13:00 ` Chris Adams
2002-08-09 14:39 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-09 13:59 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-09 14:57 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-08 22:34 ` Paul Larson
2002-08-08 22:44 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-08 22:37 ` Rik van Riel
2002-08-09 1:49 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-08-09 19:34 ` Paul Larson
2002-08-09 20:13 ` Paul Larson
2002-08-09 20:40 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-08-09 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-09 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-09 21:46 ` Paul Larson
2002-08-09 22:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 17:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-10 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-10 18:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-11 20:41 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-11 19:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-11 21:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-11 20:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-12 8:56 ` Padraig Brady
2002-08-12 10:37 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-12 9:21 ` Padraig Brady
2002-08-12 14:40 ` Paul Larson
2002-08-08 21:50 Hubertus Franke
2002-08-09 0:53 Hubertus Franke
2002-08-12 16:15 Jim Houston
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