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From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	 john.ogness@linutronix.de, pmladek@suse.com
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	 John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vlad Poenaru <vlad.wing@gmail.com>,
	 Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	 Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	 linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	 Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	 Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	 K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] netpoll: run NAPI poll in softirq context to avoid rq->lock self-deadlock
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2026 09:32:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajF5S0uY-8F0jzoh@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260616103529.Yh9Dxsjp@linutronix.de>

On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 12:35:29PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-06-11 19:11:14 [-0700], Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Jun 2026 11:36:21 -0700 Vlad Poenaru wrote:
> > > @@ -194,11 +194,56 @@ void netpoll_poll_dev(struct net_device *dev)
> > > +	local_bh_disable();
> > > + 	poll_napi(dev);
> > > +	_local_bh_enable();
> >
> > tglx, Sebastian, are you okay with using _local_bh_enable() to trick
> > softirq into not waking ksoftirqd? The problematic path is:
> >
> >   scheduler -> printk -> netconsole -> raise softirq -> scheduler (deadlock)
> >
> > so the softirq may never get serviced.
> >
> > In netcons we try to avoid touching the network driver if the Tx path
> > locks are already held. Ideally we'd do something similar with the
> > scheduler. Try to do bare minimum if we may be in the scheduler.
> > Failing that - don't poll the driver if we were called with irqs
> > already disabled.
> >
> > Or maybe we only poll from console->write_thread ?
>
> So this is not an issue since commit 7eab73b18630e ("netconsole: convert
> to NBCON console infrastructure"). Because from here now on writes are
> deferred to the nbcon thread. So this purely about -stable in this case.

Does the nbcon thread handle defer even for consoles that support atomic
operations?

netconsole is marked with CON_NBCON_ATOMIC_UNSAFE, which means it rarely
performs inline/direct printk and instead pushes to the thread, which
flushes in a safe context.

For drivers that behave correctly, I'd like to be able to drop
CON_NBCON_ATOMIC_UNSAFE, potentially setting it at runtime based on the
underlying driver capabilities. If netconsole is backed by a well-behaving
network driver, we could eventually remove the flag (!?)

Would that approach cause any issues?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-16 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-10 18:36 [PATCH net] netpoll: run NAPI poll in softirq context to avoid rq->lock self-deadlock Vlad Poenaru
2026-06-11 18:36 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-12  2:11 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-15 13:56   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-16 10:35   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-16 15:11     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-06-16 15:31       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-16 16:32     ` Breno Leitao [this message]
2026-06-16 17:02     ` Peter Zijlstra

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