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From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "Matt Evans" <matt@ozlabs.org>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex@shazbot.org>,
	"Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"Alex Mastro" <amastro@fb.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
	"Mahmoud Adam" <mngyadam@amazon.de>,
	"David Matlack" <dmatlack@google.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Ankit Agrawal" <ankita@nvidia.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
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	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/9] vfio/pci: Clean up BAR zap and revocation
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2026 18:51:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajGbRE3WWJxNxcrg@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR11MB3690489DB5FA611413BF60558CE52@DM6PR11MB3690.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 09:48:14AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2026 3:39 AM
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 04:43:20PM +0100, Matt Evans wrote:
> > > @@ -1264,7 +1265,7 @@ static int vfio_pci_ioctl_reset(struct
> > vfio_pci_core_device *vdev,
> > >  	if (!vdev->reset_works)
> > >  		return -EINVAL;
> > >
> > > -	vfio_pci_zap_and_down_write_memory_lock(vdev);
> > > +	down_write(&vdev->memory_lock);
> > >
> > >  	/*
> > >  	 * This function can be invoked while the power state is non-D0. If
> > > @@ -1277,10 +1278,11 @@ static int vfio_pci_ioctl_reset(struct
> > vfio_pci_core_device *vdev,
> > >  	 */
> > >  	vfio_pci_set_power_state(vdev, PCI_D0);
> > >
> > > -	vfio_pci_dma_buf_move(vdev, true);
> > > +	vfio_pci_zap_revoke_bars(vdev);
> > 
> > I'm wondering if this change in behavior is correct?
> > BEFORE this patch the sequence was:
> > 
> > 1. zap vma mappings
> > 2. Enter D0
> > 
> > After this patch the sequence becomes
> > 
> > 1. Take the lock
> > 2. Enter D0
> > 3. zap vma mappings
> > 
> > My worry is if user-space accesses a BAR *during* the transition to D0,
> > it could crash since the mappings still exist during the transition?
> 
> not 'crash' as you also noted later with all Fs on read and dropped writes.

Ack, "crash" is definitely a strong word, I just meant that the
user-space program isn't expecting to see all Fs today. Since today any
access during reset is faulted, however with this all apps may have to
lookout for all Fs during a read. Could this change cause existing apps
to crash?

> 
> > 
> > The old code is immune to it because it removed user-mappings first.
> > 
> > Following the discussion from v1 regarding the ordering of
> > vfio_pci_dma_buf_move() and the D0 transition.. while it makes sense to
> > perform the DMABUF revocation/move after the hardware is in D0.. I'm not
> > too confident about moving zap after D0 :/
> 
> probably add a comment to remind that ordering requirement for dma
> 

+1. That'd be helpful.

> > 
> > I mean, sure, the user would just see all Fs on a read and writes will
> > be dropped silently until we are in D0.. but the behaviour before this
> > change was that the user access will fault and hang on the memory_lock
> > instead which ensures that the user observes a consistent dev state..
> > 
> 
> I see this more consistent from another angle.
> 
> Old code only removes/blocks cpu access but not for device. DMAs
> are allowed to this device while it's transitioning between D0/D3.
> 
> New code at least make this part consistent - both cpu/p2p are allowed
> in the transition window.
> 
> Ideally a sane userspace shouldn't rely on the content read back when
> it has initiated a reset in parallel. So this behavior change sounds ok?

I agree on the CPU / P2P consistency part. However, my concern is for a
shared reset scenario where a reset triggered by one process (I guess it
was vfio_assign_device_set?) can affect multiple devices in a dev_set
that are owned by different, unrelated processes. 

In the old code, these peer processes are protected because their BAR
mappings are zapped immediately. Their MMIO threads simply stall in
a page fault until the reset is complete.

I agree for a single-reset scenario, sane user-space should never access
regions during a self-triggered reset.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Praan

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-16 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-10 15:43 [PATCH v3 0/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-06-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] PCI/P2PDMA: Add CONFIG_PCI_P2PDMA_CORE Matt Evans
2026-06-10 18:39   ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-06-11 16:07   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-06-11 17:44     ` Matt Evans
2026-06-11 18:37   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-12  3:39     ` Tian, Kevin
2026-06-12 14:31       ` Matt Evans
2026-06-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to look up PFNs for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-06-11 20:30   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-12 17:37     ` Alex Williamson
2026-06-12 18:21       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-15 14:27     ` Matt Evans
2026-06-15 15:07       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-12  8:42   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-06-15 18:04     ` Matt Evans
2026-06-16  9:28       ` Tian, Kevin
2026-06-16 11:48         ` Matt Evans
2026-06-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] vfio/pci: Add a helper to create a DMABUF for a BAR-map VMA Matt Evans
2026-06-12  8:43   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-06-12  9:20   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] vfio/pci: Convert BAR mmap() to use a DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-06-12  8:46   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-06-15 15:33     ` Matt Evans
2026-06-12 10:41   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-12 15:22     ` Matt Evans
2026-06-12 19:43       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] vfio/pci: Provide a user-facing name for BAR mappings Matt Evans
2026-06-12  8:46   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-06-12 14:06   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-15 15:13     ` Matt Evans
2026-06-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] vfio/pci: Clean up BAR zap and revocation Matt Evans
2026-06-12 19:39   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16  9:48     ` Tian, Kevin
2026-06-16 18:51       ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-06-16  9:18   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-06-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] vfio/pci: Support mmap() of a VFIO DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-06-12 20:35   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16 15:45     ` Matt Evans
2026-06-16  9:20   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-06-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] vfio/pci: Permanently revoke a DMABUF on request Matt Evans
2026-06-16  8:05   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16  9:26   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-06-10 15:43 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() attributes to DMABUF feature Matt Evans
2026-06-16  8:47   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16 11:37     ` Matt Evans
2026-06-16 19:09       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16  9:26   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-06-12  8:27 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] vfio/pci: Add mmap() for DMABUFs Tian, Kevin
2026-06-12 15:11   ` Matt Evans
2026-06-12 15:17     ` Pranjal Shrivastava

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