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From: Beniamino Galvani <bgalvani@redhat.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@kernel.org>
Cc: "Ralf Lici" <ralf@mandelbit.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Daniel Gröber" <dxld@darkboxed.org>,
	"Antonio Quartulli" <antonio@mandelbit.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 08/15] ipxlat: add translation engine and dispatch core
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2026 10:32:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajjzF3W-0xDC133f@tp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a4tab1vs.fsf@toke.dk>

On Thu, Jun 04, 2026 at 08:23:51PM +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> Ralf Lici <ralf@mandelbit.com> writes:
> 
> > This commit introduces the core start_xmit processing flow: validate,
> > select action, translate, and forward. It centralizes action resolution
> > in the dispatch layer and keeps per-direction translation logic separate
> > from device glue. The result is a single data-path entry point with
> > explicit control over drop/forward/emit behavior.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Ralf Lici <ralf@mandelbit.com>
> 
> This is very cool! Going quickly through the series, this seems like
> thorough work that will be cool to have available in the kernel, so
> thanks for doing this! I'll be quite happy to retire my barebones
> BPF-based implementation once this lands :)


Hi,

speaking as a maintainer of NetworkManager, I would also like to see
this feature in the kernel!

In NetworkManager currently we are using a BPF program [1] to
implement the CLAT, but that approach comes with limitations: for
example, we can't fragment v4->v6 packets if needed, and it's not
possible to recompute checksums in certain cases (e.g. for v4->v6 UDP
packets with zero checksum, and for fragmented ICMP). systemd-networkd
is also adding CLAT support via BPF [2], with a fallback to userspace
for the cases that can't be handled in kernel.

It would be very useful to have a native in-kernel CLAT that solves
the limitations of BPF-based solutions, and can be used by different
tools without having to re-implement everything from scratch.

Beniamino

[1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/blob/1.57.2-dev/src/core/bpf/clat.bpf.c
[2] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/41412


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-22  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-19 15:12 [RFC net-next 00/15] Introducing ipxlat: a stateless IPv4/IPv6 translation device Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 01/15] drivers/net: add ipxlat netdevice skeleton and build plumbing Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 02/15] ipxlat: add RFC 6052 address conversion helpers Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 03/15] ipxlat: add packet metadata control block helpers Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 04/15] ipxlat: add IPv4 packet validation path Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 05/15] ipxlat: add IPv6 " Ralf Lici
2026-04-09  2:18   ` Xavier HSINYUAN
2026-04-09  9:44     ` Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 06/15] ipxlat: add transport checksum and offload helpers Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 07/15] ipxlat: add 4to6 and 6to4 TCP/UDP translation helpers Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 08/15] ipxlat: add translation engine and dispatch core Ralf Lici
2026-06-04 18:23   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2026-06-05 12:32     ` Ralf Lici
2026-06-10 11:14       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2026-06-13 13:17         ` Ralf Lici
2026-06-15 13:31           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2026-06-22 13:34             ` Ralf Lici
2026-06-22 14:36               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2026-06-22  8:32     ` Beniamino Galvani [this message]
2026-06-22 15:56       ` Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 09/15] ipxlat: emit translator-generated ICMP errors on drop Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 10/15] ipxlat: add 4to6 pre-fragmentation path Ralf Lici
2026-05-18 12:36   ` Xavier HSINYUAN
2026-06-05 12:24     ` Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 11/15] ipxlat: add ICMP informational translation paths Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 12/15] ipxlat: add ICMP error translation and quoted-inner handling Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 13/15] ipxlat: add netlink control plane and uapi Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 14/15] selftests: net: add ipxlat coverage Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 15:12 ` [RFC net-next 15/15] Documentation: networking: add ipxlat translator guide Ralf Lici
2026-03-19 22:11   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-03-24  9:55     ` Ralf Lici
2026-04-06 14:50   ` Xavier Hsinyuan
2026-04-07 11:30     ` Daniel Gröber
2026-04-09  2:17       ` Xavier HSINYUAN

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