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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Jethro Beekman <jethro@fortanix.com>
Cc: "Jon Lange" <jlange@microsoft.com>,
	"Jörg Rödel" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"thomas.lendacky" <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"coconut-svsm@lists.linux.dev" <coconut-svsm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joerg.roedel@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH 4/4] kvm: svm: Support KVM_SEV_SNP_PAGE_TYPE_VMSA at SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2026 16:43:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ajsaBBrsIbM7FISl@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <89c4ac3a-1462-4798-a700-2e1e9407a4f8@fortanix.com>

On Wed, Jun 24, 2026, Jethro Beekman wrote:
> On 2026-06-24 00:55, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2026, Jethro Beekman wrote:
> >> On 2026-06-24 00:02, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> >>>> A UAPI that allows creation of all architecturally-valid enclaves for
> >>>> purposes of measurement portability was stated as an explicit non-goal. As
> >>>> this is the only stated purpose of this patch set, it should also not be
> >>>> accepted.
> >>>
> >>> No, the stated goals (thanks to the follow-up from Jon) are to (a) support VMSA
> >>> GPAs other than KVM's hardcoded, arbitrary 0xFFFFFFFFF000, and 
> >>
> >> As Jon points out, the VMSA GPA is not architecturally relevant, so any
> >> enclave can be changed to support a BSP VMSA at 0xFFFFFFFFF000. The only
> >> reason to "support VMSA GPAs other than KVM's hardcoded, arbitrary
> >> 0xFFFFFFFFF000" is measurement portability.
> > 
> > Well, that and hardcoding 0xFFFFFFFFF000 is bizarre and confusing, IMO.
> > 
> >>> (b) to play nice with multi-VMPL scenarios in the future.
> >>
> >> It's not clear to me what multi-VMPL scenario Jon is describing that requires
> >> custom VMSA content/address at launch time other than measurement
> >> portability. It's currently completely possible for VMPL0 code to set the
> >> VMPL of a VMSA or create a new VMSA with VMPL>0 at any GPA of their choosing.
> > 
> > Sorry, I phrased that poorly.  It's not about directly playing nice with multi-VMPL
> > scenarios, it's that if/when multi-VMPL support comes along, the BSP's VMSA for
> > VMPL0 will likely be the only VMSA that is NOT in guest memory.  And so supporting
> > an in-guest VMSA for BSP VMPL0 would provide consistency on top of cross-hypervisor
> > compatilibity, and I place a lot of value on consistency.
> 
> If the goal is to get rid of the arbitrary 0xFFFFFFFFF000 GPA/put the VMSA in
> guest memory, then we just need a vcpu ioctl that lets you set the GPA.

That's more or less what I suggested[*], hopefully by piggybacking the AP_CREATE
logic inasmuch as possible.  Or were you thinking something even simpler?

[*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/ajr1r-PAiXMnZ7x1@google.com

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-23 23:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-11 12:35 [PATCH 0/4] KVM: SEV: Support direct setting of VMSA for SEV-SNP guests Jörg Rödel
2026-06-11 12:35 ` [PATCH 1/4] kvm: svm: Streamline VMSA setting for VCPUs Jörg Rödel
2026-06-16 20:52   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-06-23 10:55     ` Jörg Rödel
2026-06-23 20:18   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-11 12:35 ` [PATCH 2/4] kvm: svm: Defer VMSA allocation to LAUNCH_FINISH stage Jörg Rödel
2026-06-16 21:33   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-06-23 11:26     ` Jörg Rödel
2026-06-11 12:35 ` [PATCH 3/4] kvm: svm: Support guest-provided VMSA for launching Jörg Rödel
2026-06-16 21:48   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-06-23 11:36     ` Jörg Rödel
2026-06-23 21:07   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-11 12:35 ` [PATCH 4/4] kvm: svm: Support KVM_SEV_SNP_PAGE_TYPE_VMSA at SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE Jörg Rödel
2026-06-11 12:43   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-11 13:23     ` Jörg Rödel
2026-06-16 17:55       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-17  6:45         ` Jörg Rödel
2026-06-17 13:00           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-17 13:25             ` Jörg Rödel
2026-06-17 13:37               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-17 14:44                 ` Jörg Rödel
2026-06-23 13:40                   ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-23 14:44                     ` Jörg Rödel
2026-06-23 14:51                     ` [EXTERNAL] " Jon Lange
2026-06-23 20:23                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-23 20:43                       ` Jethro Beekman
2026-06-23 21:43                         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-23 21:47                           ` Jethro Beekman
2026-06-23 22:02                             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-23 22:35                               ` Jethro Beekman
2026-06-23 22:55                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-06-23 23:08                                   ` Jethro Beekman
2026-06-23 23:43                                     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-06-17 13:18           ` James Bottomley
2026-06-17 13:28             ` Jörg Rödel
2026-06-17 13:45               ` James Bottomley
2026-06-17 14:53                 ` Jörg Rödel
2026-06-16 22:11   ` Tom Lendacky
2026-06-23 11:48     ` Jörg Rödel
2026-06-23 21:29   ` Sean Christopherson

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