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From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>, h@google.com
Cc: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] kho: Support preserving unsplit high-order pages
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2026 17:46:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ak6NA9-sQIel1W15@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2vxzy0fll71f.fsf@kernel.org>

On Wed, Jul 08, 2026 at 07:34:20PM +0200, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 08 2026, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 08, 2026 at 04:36:46PM +0000, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jul 08, 2026 at 04:11:04PM +0200, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Jul 03 2026, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> [snip]
> >> > > 
> >> > > 3. kho_restore_page() applies the correct refcount pattern based on the
> >> > >    preserved metadata.
> >> > 
> >> > Why do you need to save the type of pages in KHO metadata? For example,
> >> > for pages or folios, we don't store any type information and leave it to
> >> > the caller choose the right API. So reserve-mem and kho vmalloc need
> >> > pages, they can call kho_{preserve,restore}_pages(), and memfd needs
> >> > folios so it can call kho_{preserve,restore}_folio(). The radix tree
> >> > itself does not hold the information. The caller knows what its memory
> >> > is supposed to be so it calls the right restore API.
> >> > 
> >> > So why can't we add a kho_{preserve,restore}_page_multi() (pick a better
> >> > name; we can argue about the naming later)? Then your driver knows it is
> >> > restoring DMA buffers so it can call kho_restore_page_multi(), and KHO
> >> > takes care of initializing the pages with the right refcounts.
> >> > 
> >> > You won't have to muck about with the ABI in that case.
> >> 
> >> +1
> >> 
> >> I think this makes sense. The mm already relies on the allocator to
> >> track the type of pages it has and expectes it to use free_pages or
> >> put_page() or free_page(), so it is natural for KHO to rely on the
> >> caller to call the right restore API.
> >> 
> >> Lets add kho_preserve/restore_page_contig|_order|_nonsplit and the dma
> >> preservation can use the appropriate one during restore.
> >
> > Ack. I like kho_restore_contig, I don't think we'll need a preserve for
> 
> Dunno, everything is contiguous, folio, 0-order pages, higher order
> pages. So not exactly the best name.
> 
> Since you'd get these pages via alloc_pages, perhaps
> kho_preserve_pages() works better for this kind of allocation, and for
> the _current_ kho_preserve_pages(), we can rename it to
> kho_preserve_split_pages()? It is a bit too wordy though, so that's a
> downside.
> 

I suppose this is to preserve unsplit higher order non-compound pages.
kho_preserve_unsplit_pages() ? 

> Mike, you are better than me at naming things, so do you perhaps have
> any better ideas? :-)
> 

+1 would love everyone's help here :)

> > this though? Preserve doesn't seem to be preserving refcounts, I guess
> > we could rely on kho_preserve_pages and the caller can use
> > kho_restore_pages_contig() to set refcount correctly for unsplit pages?
> 
> No, kho_preserve_pages() can split the preservations in unexpected ways.
> While for a high order pages the current algorithm _shouldn't_ do it, it
> is simpler to just add a new preservation function.
> 
> Move things out into helpers if you want to avoid duplication, though at
> first glance I don't think there should be much.

Ack, I'll add another preserve helper.

> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Pratyush Yadav

Thanks,
Praan

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-08 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-03  2:08 [RFC PATCH 0/4] kho: Support preserving unsplit high-order pages Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-03  2:08 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] kho: Introduce infrastructure to track preserved page types Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-07  8:28   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-03  2:08 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] kho: Detect " Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-07  8:28   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-03  2:08 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] kho: Implement page-aware refcount restoration Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-07  8:28   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-03  2:08 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] kho: Introduce kho_split_preserved_pages() helper Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-07  8:28   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-08  0:23     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-07-07  8:28 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] kho: Support preserving unsplit high-order pages Mike Rapoport
2026-07-08 14:34   ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-07-08 17:42   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-08 14:11 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-07-08 16:36   ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-07-08 17:05     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-08 17:14       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-07-08 17:44         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-08 17:34       ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-07-08 17:46         ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-07-09 11:00         ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-08 17:03   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-08 17:36     ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-07-08 17:48       ` Pranjal Shrivastava

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